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My initial thought upon reading the title: 'what the hell is "blank reveal text"?'



2 commas would solve everything.


I thought the same thing and found myself, for a moment, awed that this might be the first documented use of spoiler tags.


They just used input hidden ;)


They found zero-width space characters!


Near me there's some roadworks. There's a sign that says exactly

  "Narrow Road Don't Overtake Cyclists"
but perhaps they meant

  "Narrow Road Don't Overtake, Cyclists"
The comma inverts the meaning. I still don't know which they intended.


A local hospital put up some motivational signs, in crayon. One reads, "Medical workers: not all heros wear capes". But it's written on three lines in three different colors, so it reads like "Medical workers: Not All Heroes. Wear capes!"


Obligatory Simpsons reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yuL6PcgSgM


I had the same trouble. It's a poorly written headline, the scrolls themselves did not perform the reveal.


The word 'reveal' is the current favourite of click-bait title writers.


"Scroll Writers Hate This One Trick... click to reveal new text"


"Text revealed in Dead Sea Scroll fragments previously considered blank."


It's just bizarre. The scrolls didn't do any revealing! The people did!


Did they?

> reveal, v. ts., 1. make (previously unknown or secret information) known to others.

If I turn on a flashlight in a dark room, I reveal the contents of the room; but the flashlight also reveals the contents of the room; and at the lowest level, the light from the flashlight reveals the contents of the room. One could go even deeper, and say that the objects "reveal themselves", as the pigments in the objects react to the light by transmitting information about the objects to my eyes (unlike stealth planes or dark matter, which do not reveal themselves in response to light.)

A server can "reveal" information by transmitting it to you, in response to your request for it. A server reveals itself when it responds to a ping. A server that ignores pings and portscans is avoiding revealing itself.

Basically, any entity in the causal chain for information being produced—even a non-agentive one—seems capable of "revealing" in English.

(Perhaps you're thinking of "unveil"? That word implies that there's a thing external to the information—a veil/curtain—and requires an agentive entity to act upon it.)


My intuition for the verb 'reveal' is that the subject need be in some way active in the object being de-obscured. A server responding to pings reveals itself because handling incoming connections and sending packets in response is an active process. If the leather had undergone some sort of chemical process, say, an oxidation, and this had made the script apparent, I think it would be reasonable to say that the fragments were revealing the lettering. However, as far as I can see, nothing has changed about the scroll, nor even about our technological ability to interrogate it - rather, someone simply attempted to look closer than had been done so before.

Etymologically, 'reveal' is of the same heritage as 'unveil' - both are essentially analogies to the removing of a veil, and as such have the connotation of action. Only in a poetic context would I personally think it appropriate to use 'reveal' in a passive sense - as in your example of objects revealing themselves on exposure to light.

This is of course just wot i rekon. I would probably chose 'divulge' over 'reveal' in the title of the OP article.


> However, as far as I can see, nothing has changed about the scroll, nor even about our technological ability to interrogate it - rather, someone simply attempted to look closer than had been done so before.

I believe one common usage of "reveal" is that an autostereogram ("Magic Eye" picture) reveals a 3D image when you focus on it correctly. Nothing about the picture changes; nothing about your eyes change, either, really. It's just "looking closer." But the 3D object was obscure, and now it's been... revealed. Revealed by what? By whom? Not too clear.

I guess, in the Dead-Sea-Scroll-fragments case, it actually is clear: it was revealed by a microscope.


Here are quotes from some Google Books (not all particularly poetic)

"The dim glow of the light revealed a pair of feet"

"The dust revealed a group of riders returning"

"an inrush of air, clearing the smoke, revealed a scene of utter devastation"

"When a 30-MW Q-switched ruby laser was focused into water, the resulting spark revealed a blackbody-like spectrum with a temperature of 15,000K"


the light is the noun that acts to reveal the feat.

the dust is the noun that acts to reveal riders.

the air is the noun that acts to reveal devastation.

the spark is the noun that acts to reveal the spectrum.

In none of those examples were the feet, rider, devastation or spectrum the nouns that the verb reveal refers to as acting.

Reveal can be used as a verb, but in the title in question, the noun is Dead Sea Scrolls not "the Professor, the investigation, or the scanner" that did the revealing. The Dead Sea Scrolls did not act on their own to reveal something, they were acted upon.


I don't concede that there is a significant difference between the scrolls versus other nouns referring to parts of the causal chain.

However, if you want to make the distinction, there are innumerable examples of similar usage, where written material is said to reveal something.

"these pages revealed the power of words to us as though for the first time"

"The book revealed to me a whole frightening world"

"The alchemists really believed that the Emerald Tablet revealed truths too powerful for most people to handle"

"Aside from the joke, the letter revealed his youthful trait of uttering labored, high-sounding but unsubstantial phrases"

But why exactly are you fixated on the idea that written things can't act, while apparently pretty much any other abstract or inanimate object can?


All those examples show writing revealing an idea, not the text itself appearing.

The structure of the original sentence is just harder to parse at first glance because it's missing words or punctuation, or written in the wrong order.

"Text revealed on Dead Sea Scroll fragments thought to be blank" is much easier to read.


The most HN of comment threads.


> It's a poorly written headline, the scrolls themselves did not perform the reveal.

Material versus efficient cause. The scrolls are the material cause of the revelation, the researchers are the efficient cause of the revelation. Both reveal the text.


Ah, for the want of a comma...


It certainly would have helped, no?


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