Nor should you, given your supposed affiliation with the NSA.
>It's not all kept.
More is kept than phone/email metadata, which even by themselves, are too much.
>You're confusing NSA with FBI.
No I'm not. Where does the FBI, DEA, IRS get the data? You're ignoring the Parallel Discovery disclosures and the exception contained in the PATRIOT act that allows the NSA to retain information that’s "accidentally" collected on Americans. "This information is generally destroyed, but there are some important exceptions. For example, if an intercepted communication contains information about a crime being committed, the NSA may retain the information and turn it over the law enforcement."[1]
>I do have proof. I was in the NSA and I took the yearly FISA training. NSA analysts take FISA violations very seriously, and always err on the side of US person if in doubt. Why? Because collecting on a US person is the quickest way to get fired.
1. A singular example of "lawful" behavior from an NSA analyst isn't proof of anything remarkable, even if I choose to take you at your word, I would expect a majority to behave in good faith. I, like nearly every person who has a job take yearly training for various compliance functions at my employer, those simple annual compliance courses cannot actually ensure compliance, nor do they address the constitutionality of NSA programs as a whole. Also, Milgram demonstrates the ease of obtaining compliance from employees without regard to the ethical nature of the activity to be performed.
2. Show some proof. Your appeal to authority rests on your assertion that you were "in the NSA." So, you have at least two claims to show proof for, first, that you were an NSA employee with access to information regarding compliance, and some credible or authenticated compliance data supporting your claim. You may not like my request that you perform some impossible feat. My request is no less ridiculous than your expectation that I believe any of the unsupported (and false[2]) claims you've made.
>Awesome. NSA does not watchlist people.
1. Another unsupported claim. 2. I never said that NSA does, I said that the NSA passes information to domestic law enforcement; though I find it hard to believe that there are no target lists of any kind.
>All in all, I find your response to be composed of pure internet anger and no factual content.
I find your participation in discussions regarding NSA/gov't surveillance offensive and lacking in credibility without advance disclosure of your past/current affiliation.
Nor should you, given your supposed affiliation with the NSA.
>It's not all kept.
More is kept than phone/email metadata, which even by themselves, are too much.
>You're confusing NSA with FBI.
No I'm not. Where does the FBI, DEA, IRS get the data? You're ignoring the Parallel Discovery disclosures and the exception contained in the PATRIOT act that allows the NSA to retain information that’s "accidentally" collected on Americans. "This information is generally destroyed, but there are some important exceptions. For example, if an intercepted communication contains information about a crime being committed, the NSA may retain the information and turn it over the law enforcement."[1]
>I do have proof. I was in the NSA and I took the yearly FISA training. NSA analysts take FISA violations very seriously, and always err on the side of US person if in doubt. Why? Because collecting on a US person is the quickest way to get fired.
1. A singular example of "lawful" behavior from an NSA analyst isn't proof of anything remarkable, even if I choose to take you at your word, I would expect a majority to behave in good faith. I, like nearly every person who has a job take yearly training for various compliance functions at my employer, those simple annual compliance courses cannot actually ensure compliance, nor do they address the constitutionality of NSA programs as a whole. Also, Milgram demonstrates the ease of obtaining compliance from employees without regard to the ethical nature of the activity to be performed.
2. Show some proof. Your appeal to authority rests on your assertion that you were "in the NSA." So, you have at least two claims to show proof for, first, that you were an NSA employee with access to information regarding compliance, and some credible or authenticated compliance data supporting your claim. You may not like my request that you perform some impossible feat. My request is no less ridiculous than your expectation that I believe any of the unsupported (and false[2]) claims you've made.
>Awesome. NSA does not watchlist people.
1. Another unsupported claim. 2. I never said that NSA does, I said that the NSA passes information to domestic law enforcement; though I find it hard to believe that there are no target lists of any kind.
>All in all, I find your response to be composed of pure internet anger and no factual content.
I find your participation in discussions regarding NSA/gov't surveillance offensive and lacking in credibility without advance disclosure of your past/current affiliation.
[1] http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/25/h...
[2] Even if you are a former NSA employee, I do not believe that you were allowed to retain NSA data that would support your claim.