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US citizens are almost as worthless. Our comments might at least get us on the no-fly list. People find out at the airport that they aren't allowed on the plane. They're not criminals, yet are still forbidden from flying for the rest of their lives, with no reason given and no appeal possible.


If you are on the "no fly" list, is it reasonable to live near a US border near an international city like Vancouver or Toronto and simply drive across the border and catch a plane from those cities, or does the no fly list also apply to people flying out of Canada?


It's a US-only list, so I believe that alternative would work.


Except for the fact that being on the no-fly list means you can't even enter US airspace regardless of your origin and destination and many (most?) flights from Canada still pass through US airspace. Same thing with most Mexican flights to Europe.

Here are some eye-opening stories:

http://papersplease.org/wp/2011/02/16/british-man-marooned-i...

http://papersplease.org/wp/2011/05/25/us-intervenes-to-block...

http://papersplease.org/wp/2011/07/25/mexico-barcelona-fligh...

http://papersplease.org/wp/2009/05/16/air-france-passenger-d...

http://papersplease.org/wp/2010/06/07/another-paris-mexico-f...




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