> Now that we know that every call is being slurped up by the surveillance-monster
This order authorizes metadata about every call, explicitly not including names, addresses, financial information, or the actual contents of the call.
From the order:
> Telephony metadata does not include the substantive content of any communication, as defined by 18 U.S. §2510(8), or the name, address, or financial information of a subscriber or customer.
> explicitly not including names, addresses, financial information
Hmm, so what is the point in even collecting if they don't have the names and addresses?
Are you implying that they see 555-444-1234 called 555-444-1235 for 5 minutes and they would have no idea who called who? Why are they bothering. We know government contractor and employment opportunities probably doesn't attract the brightest out there, but you'd think someone would let them know their own data is useless.
It would seem to me they can just do a reverse white pages search and get everything they need. That additional wording "does not include substantive content..." is there as a diversion. "Oh look nothing to worry here..."
> I am copying verbatim or summarizing the FISA order
Why are you doing that? Did you randomly select and copy parts of text or did you pick that particular set of lines for a reason.
You also emphasized the word 'metadata'.
Now you can have a discussion or as soon as people respond to you, you can keep pointing out how they obviously guessed wrong your intentions, maybe finally someone will guess correctly, who knows, until then just reply in short snippets "i didn't say that", "nope not what i meant", "here is an exact quote of what i already wrote".
My goal was not to participate in this discussion at this particular time, but instead to read others' valuable opinions.
My reason for posting was to correct factual errors in the discussion. Factual errors seriously reduce the level of quality of discussions of topics such as this one. Things get much more interesting when people hone in on the nuanced elements of the actual fact pattern.
My replies were to correct people who seemed to think that my curation of quotes from the FISA order implied something about my views on whether the order is good or bad.
And now this is an attempt to make the whole series of responses clear.
This order authorizes metadata about every call, explicitly not including names, addresses, financial information, or the actual contents of the call.
From the order:
> Telephony metadata does not include the substantive content of any communication, as defined by 18 U.S. §2510(8), or the name, address, or financial information of a subscriber or customer.