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Somehow some libertarian blogger picked that quote up, and the number of times it's been cut and pasted now exceeds the length of Debt itself.

David Graeber, on that quote:

"The endlessly cited Apple quote was not supposed to be about Apple. Actually it was about a whole of series of other tiny start-ups created by people who’d dropped out of IBM, Apple, and similar behemoths. (Of them it’s perfectly true.) The passage got horribly garbled at some point into something incoherent, I still can’t completely figure out how, was patched back together by the copyeditor into something that made logical sense but was obviously factually wrong. I should have caught it at the proofreading stage but I didn’t. I did catch it when the book first came out, tried to get the publisher to take it out, and have been continually trying since July. All to no avail. I have absolutely no idea why a book can go through eight editions and it’s impossible to pull out a couple lines of obviously incorrect text but they just keep telling me, no, I have to wait until July. Allow me to reassure the reader: You have absolutely no idea how frustrating this is, especially as the stupid line has been held out, reproduced, sent around in every conceivable way to suggest that nothing else in the book is likely to be factually accurate To which all I can reply is: well, notice how this is the only quote in the book that happens with. That one sentence gets repeated a thousand times. No other one does. That’s because it’s the only sentence flagrantly wrong like that. In fact, I’ve communicated with, or read reviews by, scholars of Greece, Mesopotamia, and Islam, Medievalists, Africanists, historians of Buddhism, and a wide variety of economists, etc, etc, and none have noticed any glaring errors—in fact, the most frequent reaction is that it’s remarkable that someone who is not an area specialist actually more or less gets it right (remember, these are scholars often loathe to admit even their own colleagues in the field get it more or less right.) The book is pretty meticulously researched and has stood up to scholarly review. The problem is I haven’t been able to get the one idiotic garbled sentence out despite my utmost endeavors. But it will be. They promise. Soon."



Fine, you can go back to rationalizing something substantive, like why all these "temple-created, social-credit based currencies" just happened to be silver, which holds exactly the properties Menger and Aristotle said that a plausible money would have. (Edit: or find even one company of which it's "perfectly true".)

And while you're at it, go easy on the "downvote = agree disagreement" habit.


Yeah, a sarcastic comment totally lacking in substance that's a cut and paste of something that's been bouncing around the libertarian internets totally deserves upvotes.

For context: Graeber got into a spat with some dude at the Mises Institute, which kicked up a hornets nest of people who never read the book to go nuclear on it, posting nasty reviews on Amazon etc.

SilasX, have you read the book? If not, why are you commenting on it?


I've read summaries of the critical arguments and their critiques. I can't honestly be expected to ready every single page before identifying what I find to be errors in it. We need to get over ourselves -- the Kolmogorov complexity of the substantive points Graeber brings to the discussion with his book is certainly less than the amount of text contained in 1000+ pages.

Do you want to tackle the problem of why the "temple units" happened to be silver?

Also, even if my post was genuinely deserving of a downvote, I hope you recognize that you should leave that job to someone else, as you have too much invested in this topic to be objective (as does anyone replying in a similar position).




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