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The world is more equal than you think (economist.com)
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The ratio of spending is a poor metric to measure equality. All it really shows is that the “poor” are getting milked for everything they earn and own. Energy costs, fuel, water, basics like bread and butter, insurance, even doing something nice - all at sky-high prices driven by nothing else but greed. Oh, and farewell to the middle class…

Yeah, that struck me too. Measuring wealth by spending disguises inequality because higher earners have less reason to spend more, and the difference in freedom to choose not to spend more is a large part of the inequality.

There are interesting aspects to the data, but they overstate what the numbers they present tell us about inequality.


It also ignores a similar phenomenon among the poor. Decreased self-supply.

In a rich country this might mean paying for childcare so you can work. Your expenditure has gone up, but you are only better off by the increased post tax income less the cost of childcare. Even worse is paid childcare has substituted for family provided (e.g. grandparents) childcare.

In a poor country it might mean buying food instead of growing it. An industrial worker will buy their food, a subsistence farmer will grow their own. There is a huge increase in expenditure, but they might well end up with a worse diet.

This is not new. The initial workforce for the industrialisation of Britain (the first country to industrialise) was available because of the enclosure of common land forced people to seek work in cities.


> In a rich country this might mean paying for childcare so you can work. Your expenditure has gone up, but you are only better off by the increased post tax income less the cost of childcare. Even worse is paid childcare has substituted for family provided (e.g. grandparents) childcare.

That's a pretty clear illustration of the myopia of excessively quantitative economic thinking. The economist looks at easily-quantified numbers: WAGES - CHILDCARE_EXPENSE = POSITIVE_NUMBER, and concludes "PROFIT! EVERYONE WINS!" But the hard-to-quantify negatives are completely ignored: the poorer relationship between the kids and parents, negative psychological effects on the kids due to day care, etc. That's especially true when talking about things in aggregate.


I very much agree with you (and that is reflected in my own life choices), but that is a different point.

My point is that people are not even as much financially better off as the numbers say.


What would you rather use then? Ultimately you have money to spend right? What other point?

Income. Wealth.

The point is that the unspent income has significant value.

I earn a multiple of the UK median. Above a lower multiple of the median, the primary increased value I got out of earning more was the freedom to stop thinking about what an increasing subset of things cost. I still need to think about what my housing cost, but I don't know what most groceries cost, because it doesn't matter to me.

The mental cost of detail budgeting, planning, and saving for most smaller costs, as well as the associated anxiety, is something I never want to pay again.

My actual spending thus tells a flawed story about the advantage I have over someone earning less.


Power. Why do you think people who already have huge amounts of money want more? Money is a way of acquiring power.

That is why billionaires typically give money away by putting it in foundations they control (so they keep the power) rather than just giving it to poor people (which would be more effective as people could spend it on what they most need).


power is one aspect but i think it is valid for billionaires to have power. buying goods is the other aspect and the poor and the rich more or less consume similarly.

i do want to live in the world where money doesn't dictate _consumption_ as much as power. money has to mean something, and its good that it goes into power more than consumption. that means the poor can have a dignified life to buy what they want but they don't get to dictate how money will be allocated.


> power is one aspect but i think it is valid for billionaires to have power.

Why?

Owning a lot of wealth says little about how effectively you can wield power or whether you'll use said power to benefit all or just yourself.


Marx said that concentration of wealth can be a good thing as rich people can invest their money in capital heavy things, such as factories, whereas poor people tend not to do that.

I do not think rich people are accumulating wealth because they are following Marx.

Despite the common image, Marx was a huge fan of capitalism. He thought it was a huge step forward, and not least that capitalism was an absolute necessity to bring production to a level where he believed socialism would become possible... He just also thought it had flaws that he believed would eventually make it obsolete.

Yeah, typically people don’t understand the point of Marx at all.

He saw capitalism as a natural and necessary step before developing communism.

Hence why most criticism of soviet and Chinese communism is fundamentally flawed, since they tried to develop communism in feudal societies.

FWIW I am libertarian leaning, but it is obvious to me capitalism has obvious defects that must be either compensated for, or be done away with entirely.


Capitalism and socialism is a false ideological dichotomy. Mr. Beat has a good video on this. We live in a mixed economy.

Not to fall into the "communism is when free stuff" trope, but...

Most people like public schools, public roads, public transit, public parks, and public libraries.

The benefits of public goods are well known. This is the whole field of public finance economics.

Market failures are also well-known. Negative externalities, moral hazard, adverse selection etc. Hence carbon taxes, congestion charges, and universal healthcare.

In other words, sometimes free trade capitalism works, other times it doesn't, and it's not a mystery when. Marx's whole spiel about contradictions is wrong and largely throws the baby out with the bath water, so to speak.


The notion of a "mixed economy" is really orthogonal to Marx arguments over capitalism, though it is relevant to other socialist ideologues. To Marx, what mattered was the dominant "mode of production", and the result power dynamic resulting from that. The existence of public services doesn't change that. A socialist system with a free market remains socialist. A capitalist system with public services remain capitalist. Calling either "mixed" doesn't alter what the dominant mode of production is.

As for Marx "spiel about contradictions", all he did was take capitalists seriously on the notion that competition in a truly free market will tend to drive down margins once the market is fully exploited.

One can certainly disagree with his conclusions over the consequences of that - e.g. whether societies will succeed in continuing to mitigate the negative effects, or end up in crises, but the core theory of Marx on capitalism was that competition and markets works as advertised.


The existence of different modes of production is an absurd and false dichotomy. Worker co-ops exist today. People are free to make them, and join them if the co-ops will take them.

And by socialist system with a free market do you mean one where private ownership of the modes of production remains legal, but simply isn't chosen, or do you consider banning private ownership compatible with free markets?


People aren’t free to make them unless they have the capital. This is a completely bogus statement.

> All it really shows is that the “poor” are getting milked for everything they earn and own

How are you concluding that? The only way I can see that could be true is if the bottom 50% has shifted their meagre savings to spending in an effort to stay afloat.

I find this to be dubious because the bottom 50% was never saving much at all in the first place. For context, the median income across planet earth is $850 USD _per year._ There's not a lot of room at the bottom for savings.


Seems like you need these kind of overly simplistic takes to get people to engage with this topic

No-one's interested in a detailed report: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=wid.world


I think the world you're talking about would be the intra country comparison which bears out what your saying.

What the article is talking about is intercountry comparisons where, for instance, India as a nation now spends a lot more than it used to, and seeing as how they used to have nothing it means they probably have something now.


Spending is the best way to measure prosperity. What else would you use?

If a billionaire has similar health care, eats similar food and buys similar phones, then in reality they are actually quite similar to the poor.


This is as disingenuous as saying that both the rich and the poor consume the same amounts of calories, nutrients, oxygen and water, and hence they are not that different.

The key issue is that money often translates to such things as power and leisure. Prosperity is not consumption - it is the command over power, resources and time.

The poor have to sell their time in order to afford the basic necessities of life; the rich don't have to. So the rich have a lot more free time than the poor and the resources to use it well. The rich simply are freer than the poor, who are not unlike prisoners with no claim over their time.

The rich also get to influence policies to a far greater extent than the poor. In a way, wealth is just stored influence. This in turn helps them perpetuate their privilege. For instance, they can fund narratives that normalize inequality and lobby for lower taxes.

The lives of the rich are also far more secure than the lives of the poor. Many poor people are one major life crisis away from penury. This significantly affects the quality of their lives. Access to more wealth would mitigate this.

One could also flip your argument as follows: wealth is a scarce resource. If the rich already have everything they need to live a happy life at low amounts of wealth, then letting them horde more wealth than necessary is unjustified. Instead, that should be distributed to those in need. This would make no difference to the well-being of the wealthy, but it would help others who need resources more.


>The key issue is that money often translates to such things as power and leisure. Prosperity is not consumption - it is the command over power, resources and time.

I agree with you on this.

>The poor have to sell their time in order to afford the basic necessities of life; the rich don't have to. So the rich have a lot more free time than the poor and the resources to use it well. The rich simply are freer than the poor, who are not unlike prisoners with no claim over their time.

In general, I don't agree at all. Rich are "freer" but they definitely don't work fewer hours than poor on average. In USA the Rich became rich mostly by working.

https://www.ubs.com/us/en/wealth-management/our-solutions/pr...

Over 75% are self made billionaires and for sure these people work more than twice as hard as normal people. The others do normal jobs and I can't really find examples of non self made billionaires slacking off.

https://fortune.com/2018/06/18/ceos-should-prioritize-time-m...

>On average, the CEOs participating in the study worked 9.7 hours per weekday and 62.5 hours per week. They also worked on the majority of their days off, on average 3.9 hours on weekend days and 2.4 hours on vacation days.

Poor people don't work as hard for many reasons

1. they don't want to 2. they don't have the opportunity to 3. they don't have the health

But that also does not mean that billionaires have more free time. It's usually not the case, simply because they are more invested in their ventures.

>The rich also get to influence policies to a far greater extent than the poor. In a way, wealth is just stored influence.

I agree but this is a caveat against the fact that the rich and the poor consume equally. Sure they can influence, but at the end of the day they consume the same which is more important for sustenance. Power and influence come higher in the hierarchy.

>The lives of the rich are also far more secure than the lives of the poor. Many poor people are one major life crisis away from penury. This significantly affects the quality of their lives. Access to more wealth would mitigate this.

Agreed.

>One could also flip your argument as follows: wealth is a scarce resource. If the rich already have everything they need to live a happy life at low amounts of wealth, then letting them horde more wealth than necessary is unjustified. Instead, that should be distributed to those in need. This would make no difference to the well-being of the wealthy, but it would help others who need resources more.

This buys into zero sum ideology of wealth. It is incorrect, misguided and a big mistake to think like this.


> In general, I don't agree at all. Rich are "freer" but they definitely don't work fewer hours than poor on average. In USA the Rich became rich mostly by working.

Dont forget about inherited privileges. If work was the primary driver of wealth, we'd see a much more even distribution. I suspect the eager CEOs either want to inflate their contribution (i know plenty who dont) or actually work more because it is their earning and not just salary plus maybe arbitrary bonus.


I agree work is not the primary driver but competence + luck. Competence is not evenly distributed.

Dont forget inherited privileges like soft skills, acquaintances, insider knowledge, preferencial treatment/positive discrimination.

Which is how most "self made" billionaires made their money.

> Rich are "freer" but they definitely don't work fewer hours than poor on average. In USA the Rich became rich mostly by working.

> But that also does not mean that billionaires have more free time. It's usually not the case, simply because they are more invested in their ventures.

There is a difference between working because you want to, vs working because you have to. The rich have the choice to quit working if they want to and still pay no significant price - the poor don't have this choice. The rich also don't have to put up with disagreeable work, whereas the poor often do.

This is a question of human freedom and dignity - not just of material wealth.

I'd also challenge the notion that the poor don't "work hard". The food delivery guy who works 8 hours a day often in disagreeable weather is arguably working much harder than many rich people.

> I agree but this is a caveat against the fact that the rich and the poor consume equally.

If you consider purchase of political influence as consumption, then your statement doesn't hold. You are only counting the basic necessities of life as consumption - but there are many services that you can purchase as a rich person that poor people cannot.

> This buys into zero sum ideology of wealth.

I'd say that it’s a mistake to treat wealth as either purely zero-sum or purely positive-sum - a false dichotomy. It has both these natures, depending on the level of analysis and the time horizon.

Wealth can grow collectively over time through productivity gains, technological improvement, and better organization of labor. That is the positive-sum aspect, and I don't deny that.

However, at any given moment, wealth is only meaningful as long as it can be exchanged for real goods and services. At the bottom of all such goods and services lie two fundamental inputs: human labor and natural resources. Both are finite as a matter of physics and biology.

Hence while we do see the amount of goods and services ballooning (and hence total "wealth" growing) primarily due to better utilization of human labor and better extraction of natural resources, there is also a sense in which wealth has a zero-sum nature especially in the short term (i.e., several decades, which is relevant for humans).


What is their definition of self made? Zero inherited wealth? I doubt it. People who crossed the threshold? You can do that sitting on investment gains.

CEOs and billionaires are different groups. Those willing to take part in a study are not a random sample. Its a sample sample too. The numbers depend on self reporting.

You are buying into the myth of wealth going to those who create it. Most wealth is accumulated by being on the right end of transfers,and pricing power.


It was incredible to see Bezos go from subsistance farmer to whatever it is now. Such a journey. I really enjoyed the documentary. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt35291758/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_...

The thing is that buying a hamburger while knowing you can afford to buy a billion more of them is not the same as buying a hamburger knowing you can't afford another one.

but if everyone's buying one hamburger at the end of the day, it has to mean something

if you think someone with 1B is the same as someone with every month a minus number on their account then you are deluded.

A good measure of prosperity is quality of life, which sadly in our wonderful civilization one needs to buy with money.

And a little note. Billionaires do not eat the same food, do not take the same healthcare, and do not buy similar consumer goods for the most part. Maybe they will get the iPhone, but if you think a poor person can afford an iPhone maybe you also don't really understand what it is to be poor.

Poor people fighting hungerpains working their shit jobs. Poor people suffer from mental ailments induced by the stresses of being poor.

There is no parallel.


how do you want to measure it?

>A good measure of prosperity is quality of life, which sadly in our wonderful civilization one needs to buy with money.

how do you propose measuring quality of life? by how the billionaire spends money right? that's exactly what they have done here.


You can very probably obtain a much different result and most likely more accurate by doing this:

Looking at a few metrics should be enough for you to understand that this article from The Economist is some kind of "everything is going well"-centrist-propaganda.

Suggested metrics:

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_in...

Based on the Gini Coefficient https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient

2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Dev...

Based on the HDI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

3.

And finally: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nomi...

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All of the above are criticizable indices, by themselves. However, if you take the time to superpose those statistical markers, you'll get a much better picture than whatever The Economist is trying to say in this article


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…in the 21st century the world economy has kept getting more equal.

…Spending inequality within countries can tell a different story. Some rich countries became more unequal in the late 20th century even as global inequality fell. In the past decade the richest 10% have pulled away from the poorest 50% in Japan, Denmark, Iceland and Sweden.


> even as global inequality fell

Real economists would consider separating statistical outliers like china.

> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S03057...

> Without China and India, global interpersonal income inequality in 143 countries was higher in 2015 than in 1988.

> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/23/china-us-pov...

> The Chinese did rather well in the age of globalization. In 1990, 943 million people there lived on less than $3 a day measured in 2021 dollars – 83% of the population, according to the World Bank. By 2019, the number was brought down to zero. Unfortunately, the United States was not as successful. More than 4 million Americans – 1.25% of the population – must make ends meet with less than $3 a day, more than three times as many as 35 years ago.

> https://wir2022.wid.world/executive-summary/

> Income and wealth inequalities have been on the rise nearly everywhere since the 1980s, following a series of deregulation and liberalization programs which took different forms in different countries. The rise has not been uniform: certain countries have experienced spectacular increases in inequality (including the US, Russia and India) while others (European countries and China) have experienced relatively smaller rises.

This article is deceitful. I dont understand why you get downvotes.


Middle class in rich countries is getting impoverished and converging with the poor countries, I guess that’s one way to become “more equal”.

People don't like to live below their means in the US. Consumerism

Can you provide evidence?


> Middle class in rich countries is getting impoverished

this is not what your article claims


> The share of Americans who are in the middle class is smaller than it used to be. In 1971, 61% of Americans lived in middle-class households. By 2023, the share had fallen to 51%

it literally is

> Households in all income tiers had much higher incomes in 2022 than in 1970, after adjusting for inflation

?


>after adjusting for inflation

"Lies, damn lies, statistics."

In 1970 1 oz of gold was ~$35 (by statute); today gold is $5,100; a few years ago it was well under two thousand dollarydoos.

Almost everybody is broke. A better way to look at this is to realize that 2025 was the highest year of spending by the Top [whatever-percentage] of consumers. The US fiat dollar's superior global position is waning, and this'll rot all economies & classes.

We're literally watching the final steps of "Trickle Down Economics" — where the wealth falls up [first slowly, then fast]. Add in some thinking machines — and it's just 21st century "slavery... with extra steps" (–R&M)


all this is misleading. the reality is that all the income levels are doing better.

Start on the farthest-right column [see chart] — notice how difficult purchasing a house is exponentially becoming, for all modern generations.

Empathy through data.

[chart] <https://i.imgur.com/lMGF4f3.png> has an obvious typographical error but general trend of right-column is true


can you provide evidence?

its literally in the article and i quoted the part

You cherry picked a line and didn't include the rest:

> But the gains for middle‑ and lower‑income households were less than the gains for upper‑income households

And you're making claims that are only talking about income (where the evidence suggests that inequality is increasing) to suggest that people are better off.

Where is the evidence that "all income levels are doing better"?


You are not able to talk about these separately. Inequality is increasing, but everyone's incomes have also increased. That means everyone has more money to spend, but also some people have more money than others. Why is it so hard for your to understand this?

>Why is it so hard for your to understand this?

I'm just curious: do you understand the difference between median and mean?

And why this might matter for more than just statistical purposes (i.e. what it means when inequality reaches extremes).


Yes I understand. What’s your point?

Certainly the higher your fiscal positioning, the better each recent decade has felt. Sure, we all have color TVs in our pockets [/s == "rich"], but can young people even afford to educate themselves in this economy?!

I know some very poor (and rich!) doctors and lawyers. Student loans and privatized healthcare are both evil within the USA — they can capture/demoralize just about any professional.

[•] https://i.imgur.com/VTUbOTv.png [a Moody's chart of expenditures, by income bracket, 1990 - 2025]


... primarily because households which would have been middle-class now have upper-class incomes instead.

And the increase in low income is due to...?

More people attending college, for a start. The increase in low-income households is much smaller than the increase in high-income households.

Background: I live in a working class duplex neighborhood, adjacent to newer lakeside mansions. Few neighbors have any college education; the majority don't pay taxes (if any, net). My community is mostly pleasant, but I definitely wouldn't raise a family here (mostly single moms and blue collar workers).

Yesterday among the poorest of neighbors said to me "I'm just trying to live a simple middle class life" — and I chuckled (rudely)... then responded "I'm among the wealthier people living on this street, and I'm not even middle class anymore — and we both still rent."

We're two tenants literally scrubbing out a former smoker tenant's filth, for rent credit, so that the next working class tenant can pay this distant slumlord more Rent. Yeah, we're rich... /s


Given that this is about "global consumption spending" my take is that the richest people are finding new ways to hide their expenditure.

Doesn't help when the source data is not available to better understand what the claims made here are actually based on.


> … the main household survey used to estimate consumption in the UK has a low sample size, and there appears to be a growing problem of undercoverage of expenditure … the fact that undercoverage has grown over time means that it is not clear whether the relatively modest recorded changes in consumption inequality since 1991 are genuine, or just due to an increased inability to pick up the expenditure of high-spending households.

From: https://academic.oup.com/ooec/article/3/Supplement_1/i103/74...


Well, yeah.

Billionaires carry the same phone you do. Their cars have nicer trim, but the powertrain lasts about as long as yours. Their home air temperature is likewise similar to yours….

We’re all richer these days.


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It’s a really good caveat against the tired old cliche that inequality is always rising. I found it interesting that while wealth inequality increases, the poor and rich are starting to consume more equally. Why do you not find it relevant?

Let us all be very happy about "The World" since the libertarians at the Economist tell us we are living in a egalitarian world. It is only a minor anomaly that a very small group of Billionaires decide our political agendas and tell our Governments what to do. And now that "Big Governments" are being down sized even the wildest dreams of the libertarians at the Economist are coming true. What could be better than this ?

Gaslighting in mass media, pseudo-literati form to manufacture the desired sentiment against the interests of ordinary people.

"The Economist, a journal that speaks for the British millionaires" - Lenin

Guess the only thing that's changed is inflation.


The context of the quote was criticism of the Economist pacifism, while Lenin was trying to use the war to instigate a revolution that will end with the deaths of millions

Inflation in Lenin's time was either negligible or astronomical. Just depends on what country and coinage you look at.

I always find it sad when people choose to quote mass murderers and dictators as if they were knowledgeable.

You have access to more knowledge, luxuries, and opportunities than kings in the past. Real wealth is consumption and leisure. Even Marx, though generally wrong, got close to this with his description of use value (he just didn't seem to understand marginal utility or leisure).




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