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As a dyed in the wool leftist I more and more struggle with Obama legacy from common core to regulation to his utter selling out the American people to the cia.

When he was well intentioned he seemed to be a total failure and when he was blatantly self interested he was monstrous.

I don’t think the right is another option but woof… this is tough



He was a corporate democrat. His cabinet was effectively selected by Citigroup. He burned home owners immediately and continued senseless wars. The difference between him and Bush was minimal.

His "legacy" is completely a media creation.

We lost control of this country the day JFK was killed.


On the one hand, "bomb bomb Iran"

On the other hand: https://youtu.be/HLAzeHnNgR8?si=rcgu4dkfY60icTuO


It was obvious when he was president that he's a terrible person. Not sure how you're struggling with it now. He's just a guy like anyone else. Not special. We shouldn't deify presidents. I didn't vote for him in 2008 because I thought he was too inexperienced. I didn't vote for him in 2012 because he continued the war of terror.


I didn’t say any of this. I think you are responding to Your own thoughts and not mine.


>As a dyed in the wool leftist I more and more struggle with Obama legacy from common core to regulation to his utter selling out the American people to the cia.

You're struggling now but presumably weren't struggling then even though it was obvious at the time that he was a bad person just like the rest of them.


I actually strongly considered voting for McCain.



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