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Mozilla's own site expounds on "Don't Break the Web" as "Web browser vendors should be able to implement new web technologies without causing a difference in rendering or functionality that would cause their users to think a website is broken and try another browser as a result."

There is no meaningful risk of that here. The percentage of web users who are trying to understand content via XSLT'd RSS is nearly zero, and for everyone who is, there is either polyfill or server-side rendering to correct the issue.

> and those engineers can and should go work on Android and iOS

With respect: taken to its logical conclusion, that would be how the web as a client-renderable system dies and is replaced by Android and iOS apps as the primary portal to interacting with HTTP servers.

If the machine is so complex that nobody wants to maintain it, it will go unmaintained and be left behind.



> Mozilla's own site expounds on "Don't Break the Web" as

I'm a former Mozillian. I don't give a shit how it has been retconned by whomever happened to be writing copy that day, if indeed they have—it isn't even worth bothering to check.

"Don't break the Web" means exactly what it sounds like it means. Anything else is a lie.

> If the machine is so complex that nobody wants to maintain it, it will go unmaintained

There isn't a shortage of people willing to work on Web browsers. What there is is a finite amount of resources (in the form of compensation to engineers), and a set of people holding engineering positions at browser companies who, by those engineers' own admission, do not satisfy the conditions of being both personally qualified and equipped to do the necessary work here. But instead of stepping down from their role and freeing up resources to be better allocated to those who are equipped and willing, they're keeping their feet planted for the simple selfish reason that doing otherwise might entail a salary reduction and/or diminished power and influence. So they sacrifice the Web.

Fuck them.


Sounds like you're volunteering to maintain the XSLT support in Firefox. That's great! That means when Chrome tries to decommission it, users who rely upon it will flock to Firefox instead because it's the only browser that works right with the websites they use.

Firefox ascendancy is overdue. Best of luck!


Do you still beat your wife?


Don't understand the question, but I do wish you well in your future endeavors!


It's a question about whether you still beat your wife. If the answer is yes, then your answer is yes, and if the answer is no, then your answer is no.

It sounds like you're looking for a jurisdiction where you can beat your wife.


I really don't follow how wife-beating has anything to do with browser protocols or standards adoption / modification, sorry.


At the very least it's (probably*) illegal whether you agree with it or not. Even where it's not illegal, physical violence against your partner isn't okay, even if they've angered you.

* depending on jurisdiction


This is all entirely off-topic from using XSLT in a website. As opposed to rendering XSLT client-side or server side, or rendering it using an in-engine native-implementation API or a JavaScript engine.

Happy to talk about those if you want; not interested at all in this violence digression you've decided to go on.


Anger is no justification for violence against your partner.




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