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The idea that these journalists suddenly found a spine is also dumb [0]. It was an example about as far on the other end of the spectrum from what jacquesm said as I could think of; obviously it is dumb too. It's an extreme example. That doesn't make it confused though, and this is the thing about explaining what you read. If you comment about what you think got said directly it is easier for people to clear up misunderstandings.

[0] If they're sitting in the same office as the US military, they're propagandists. Their job is to spread propaganda. They aren't going to suddenly catch a case of principles now. This is the class of people that keeps cheer-leading every disastrous military expedition the US goes on.



> If they're sitting in the same office as the US military, they're propagandists.

You package that as a statement of fact, but it is just your opinion.

> Their job is to spread propaganda.

Then why are they not paid by the government?

> They aren't going to suddenly catch a case of principles now.

Indeed, you could reasonably assume that they had a case of principles all along and that this violates those principles.

> This is the class of people that keeps cheer-leading every disastrous military expedition the US goes on.

Except... they don't. That's why they walked out, because they want to be free to write whatever they want to write.

You are just parroting the usual 'luegenpresse' shit.


It is a safe starting point that my comments are my opinion. If I'm presenting a fact or someone else's opinion I usually hyperlink it with square brackets.

> Then why are they not paid by the government?

They're not government propagandists. They're more an outcrop of the military-industrial complex propaganda and generally associated with the neocons from what I've seen. From the outside this looks like it might be a turf war between the Trumpists and the Neocons, but it is hard to be sure.

> You are just parroting the usual 'luegenpresse' shit.

If they put more effort into intellectually honest reporting of what the US military is doing it'd be harder to make the epithet stick. Always an option; a bunch of journalists do actually manage it. Just not so many of the ones literally sitting with the military. Someone like Snowden may well have walked past a lot of journalists at his day job, but I don't think any of them were leaking the large and credibly illegal government spying program.




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