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Curious – for those self-hosting, what email _clients_ do you actually use on desktop/mobile?


I use apple mail and iOS mail. At one point my wife was using whatever Microsoft's email/calendar/contacts app is called but she's long-switched to apple products.

On the server I have sogo running so I also use iCal and the Mac and iOS contacts apps.


Are you happy with Apple/iOS Mail? Drives me absolutely insane.


Searching sucks but with Tahoe it has improved. It's funny - apples super old email client Cyberdog from the 90s had better search.


We built a cross-platform offline-first IMAP client:

https://marcoapp.io

Search is single-digit ms. All metadata stored on the client.

I built this over the course of a year, literally driven by my frustration with Apple Mail. Maybe give it a try!

Edit: Also, extremely brave of you to upgrade to Tahoe. No chance for me


What framework or frameworks?

> All metadata stored on the client.

Passwords, tokens, and attachments stored on your servers according to your privacy policy. And headers, message bodies, drafts, contacts, and flags if encrypted server cache meant what it sounded like. And telemetry with no choice mentioned.


It does but honestly less than those cloyingly glossy and sluggish Electron/hybrid apps out there. So it's not like we users are spoilt for choice.


Curious, which particular ones have you tried and hated?


Thunderbird and Apple Mail, mostly. Outlook if I have to. Same as for non-self-hosted e-mail?


Well, Gmail/Fastmail/etc have their own clients/products.


Ah, I see. Personally, I wouldn’t really consider using a vendor-specific app when the same vendor-agnostic workhorses have been doing their job fine for decades. Never used Fastmail but back when I still used Gmail, you could use it just fine with IMAP and your client of choice.


Personally apple mail. Thunderbird is also ok. Roundcube for webmail.


Thunderbird is an all-time legend.




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