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One big difference is that Vim has been a de facto standard for a very long time, and it's ubiquitous - you can trust just about any server to have vim installed - so the investment to learn it has a much more guaranteed pay-off.


I agree. In fact, vi is a standard UNIX utility - see the POSIX-1.2008 specification:

http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/vi...

vim is the most popular implementation of vi, with lots of added bells and whistles

I'd say learn vi first; then learn the vim bells and whistles.

I have resources for learning vi at http://www.verticalsysadmin.com/vi.htm

I'm really into improving efficiency and I enjoy teaching people how to use vi. The class materials are publicly available and are based on Bill Joy's original paper introducing vi:

Basic vi: http://www.verticalsysadmin.com/vi/class/

Advanced vi: http://www.verticalsysadmin.com/vi/class/advanced.html

My next vi class will be in Columbus, Ohio at Ohio Linux Fest in a couple of weeks (http://ohiolinux.org/olfi2012/classes/editing-with-vi)


There is rarely any point learning vi if you are only ever going to use vim. (On many systems, vi is just a symlink to vim anyway).

If I had a nickel for every time someone justified not using vim's features by invoking a bizarre imaginary scenario where they were using vi to twiddle bits on a downed snowflake machine, I could buy a few fancy coffees.


Unless you work in an all windows environment :(


My condolences. I know your pain.


Solaris has only vi. Not vim. :-)




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