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In my comment I was using the Constitution and the founding Fathers as symbols for democracy to contrast the current administration which is very anti-democratic.

I understand that the constitution/founding fathers are very flawed - but to most people they still serve as symbols of the core principles of this country. As you've mentioned, if you scratch the surface the reality is very different. If you have better examples that aren't as flawed, I'd genuinely like to hear them.



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