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The "Extinct" arrow next to "Workstations - Sun, SGI" is sad - I miss the days of workstation-class machines


It's worth looking at this from multiple angles, though.

Intuitively, I'm also extremely said that "workstations" aren't a thing anymore. That there are no professional, well-engineered, powerful Sun or SGI workstations anymore. In a sense, they even felt similar to sports cars: You drooled for them, often from a distance.

On the flip side, I don't miss exactly that: Not being able to afford such a thing, or even if you theoretically could, having to shell out tens of thousands of dollars (not even accounting for inflation yet).

Extremely powerful PCs are now available to nearly everyone who wants one, especially if you take into account that even a 10+ year old dumpster PC does more than almost all these past workstations in several regards.

We'd probably be lamenting the opposite if that wasn't the case. But yes, the shine and magic is mostly gone...


The end was hard for the workstation people. In the late 1990s, I went to visit a visual effects house in Hollywood. They used almost all SGI machines, with a few Windows NT machines. Two or three years later, the ratio had totally reversed.

I visited people at SGI's animation unit, which was in what's now the Computer Museum. They were trying to sell a Windows NT machine with their GPU for about $12,000. It didn't work out.

I once saw a Softimage demo at SIGGRAPH where they had a PC hooked up to a full rack of compute servers for rendering, allowing them to run the good renderer at full frame rate. All x86/NT, not Unix. Someone commented "That's Steven Speilberg's PC."

There are no AI workstations or rendering workstations, because that's now done "in the cloud". People don't buy 128 processor ARM machines and run Linux on the desktop much.

Although a game developer's machine today, with maybe 128GB RAM and an NVidia 5080, is a pretty good supercomputer.


Workstation-class machines are very much available, at workstation-class prices.

You can buy a 64-core 7985WX Threadripper Pro with Nvidia RTX6000 and 256GB RAM for $30k or so.

Upgrade to an A100 if you're in a hurry.

They're not unusual in commercial video and animation, machine learning, and general science/engineering.

TBH you could reasonably class the $4k M3Ultra Mac Studio as a low-end workstation-grade machine for some tasks.


This might not be the most rational thing to say but I think "workstation" means "Unix workstation" which means "non-x86".


The aforementioned mac is Unix on RISC!


I don’t mean to be a downer, but it is XNU (X is not Unix) on RISC.

“or as I like to call it, XNU/RISC”



Apologies, I should have said "XNU stands for X is Not UNIX." Someone should update the docs at Apple! [0]

[0] https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Po...


That is true :) So Apple has become the last remaining Unix workstation vendor?


It doesn't take much to get the price up to low 5-figure USD (inflation UN-adjusted similar to lower end SUN workstation prices)...Max CPU and max RAM already bring you to $10k without a monitor.


and those color graded monitors are expensive!




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