Remember this: it is illegal. People can claim it's not, people can claim "truth doesn't matter any more" or "they make the rules and control the media"

But you have your own eyes and brain and you know it is illegal. It is plainly illegal, which is why nobody had done it before this. They are doing illegal things because they are crooks.

They are trying to get you to give up and lose hope. Hacker News is far more of an echo chamber in that regards than other environments.