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That is an assertion without evidence. Just because lots of people say it doesn't make it true.

And even if it is true, you could carefully and surgically remove the rot, instead of chopping off whole limbs.

And even then, you can do it following the laws set by Congress, rather than by executive decree.



Again, back to my original point. We've been "trying" this "surgical" approach for decades, and a lot of people believe that it wasn't working with things getting objectively and subjectively worse. Why? I'd argue it's because people's concerns and sincere requests for debate or voicing of their concerns has been met with derision, dismissal, gaslighting and downright cancellation. I'm not trying to debate it here, but my overall point is that people's concerns, criticisms and request for genuine debate have not been listened to, and now the pendulum has arguably swung way too far in response. Perhaps next time around we won't be so dismissive and hostile, and actually meet in the middle.

As a personal aside, the scientific/medical community (overlapping heavily with NIH) has not been able to 'surgically' prevent the advent of crazy child-mutilation and sterilization in the supposedly-enlightened West, so how do you expect average people that disagree with it to try approach it with civility? We've reached absolute peak madness, so of course debate and "surgical" type approaches are out of the window at this point. We must do better next time around.


Ah yes. Trying to have a civil and productive conversation with people who insist we're at "absolute peak madness" of "crazy child-mutilation".

Those aren't sincere people; they're living in an alternate reality warped by propaganda.

Of course I realize this is a deliberately created wedge issue precisely so those folks can claim the burden is on the rest of us to engage properly. And when we're exhausted by debunking bullshit they can claim we're being elitist and dismissive. Brilliant strategy that's taken our country to an illustrious and proud moment...


I could just as well argue that your explanation of this is also a "brilliant strategy" to dismiss any potentially valid concerns the other side may have.

If we can't even get this dynamic right, and both sides have convoluted and elaborate ways to dismiss the other, then surely we can all agree that there will absolutely never be any reconciliation or meeting of the minds of the two groups? Leaving only forced indoctrination, silencing of opinions and plain separation of the two groups into physically different governments/countries.




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