I am British, living in Britain, voted labour in last election and I agree with what OP said - it feels like labour is constantly pandering to right wing ideas just to make sure that part of electorate doesn't go to Reform.
>>is anything other than what Kier agrees with.
Proposed changes to the the citizenship process for asylum seekers isn't a far right idea? Initially being supportive of trans rights and then walking back on it isn't a far right idea? Kier constantly flip flopping on every issue depending on how the wind blows isn't something that strenghtens the right wing parties all the time? People don't call labour "tories lite" for no reason.
Arguments for stricter controls on immigration are made from across the political spectrum. The left-wing view is mainly because the cheap labour migrants provide mean that not only are they often heavily exploited, but this also drives down average wages for everybody else and increases competition for jobs.
Similarly the left-wing opposition to trans policy is driven by feminist principles and preventing harm to children. Once people see the clash of rights and how policy that favours gender identity over sex disadvantages women and girls, walking back support for it is the obvious next step.
None of this requires any adherence to far right beliefs.
>>Arguments for stricter controls on immigration are made from across the political spectrum.
This isn't an argument about immigration - it's an argument about citizenship, and the current proposed implementation contravenes various pacts that UK is the signatory of - namely that asylum seekers shouldn't have their path to citizenship hindered in any way because of the way they applied for asylum. This isn't going to stop anyone from coming over here either, or I think it's extremely naive to think so. Someone getting here from Afganistan to escape the taliban isn't going to think "oh I would go to the UK, but 6 years from now they won't grant me citizenship so I won't". The citizenship application is already extremely thorough and investigates you from every possible angle, the "good character" requirement being tied to being how you arrived here is.................a right wing idea, because it punishes people who would have been otherwise elligable for a citizenship(so you know, live here legally, pay their taxes, never had any problems with the law) but now they won't because of how they arrived here.
>>ls, walking back support for it is the obvious next step.
If it's so obvious, why was this explicitly part of Kier's campaign promises? Because I'll be honest with you - right now I feel like a right melon for voting for him. All the things that were important to me that he highlighted in his campaign he has walked back on(well, almost everything) - so if these changes are so obvious, am I an idiot for believing what was promised?
Again, from my point of view - he(and Labour) are making those changes to not anger certain parts of the electorate. We can disagree on this point, but that's my view on it.
>>None of this requires any adherence to far right beliefs.
To be clear - I don't think Kier Starmer has right wing beliefs himself. But I can definitely see what I'd call "pandering" to those ideas by his party.
> right now I feel like a right melon for voting for him
Balance that with "keeping the Tories in power would have been far, far, far worse than the mild-right Labour of Starmer, especially now the US has gone for the second series of Lunatics In Power."
You have politicians in UK arguing first cousin marriage to be ok.
Welcome back to 14th century
The fact that politicians had to add law to ban it in the first place is ridiculous on its own. Everyone knows its an insets and it causes birth defects etc.
What next ban sticking fork in a socket. Ban drinking bleach?
>>is anything other than what Kier agrees with.
Proposed changes to the the citizenship process for asylum seekers isn't a far right idea? Initially being supportive of trans rights and then walking back on it isn't a far right idea? Kier constantly flip flopping on every issue depending on how the wind blows isn't something that strenghtens the right wing parties all the time? People don't call labour "tories lite" for no reason.