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> Anyway, AI/AGI will not yield economic liberation for the masses. We already produce more than enough for economic liberation all over the world, many times over. It hasn't happened.

In Marshall Sahlins's Stone Age Economics, he studies work time of hunter gatherer tribes in Africa, Papua New Guinea, the Amazon etc. They often less work less than 40 hours a week. The hunter gatherer painting in caves in Chauvet seemed to have leisure time. Less hours than some fresh college grad pounding out C++ or C# for Electronic Arts any how.

The past 50 years has seen the hourly wage stay flat while the profit workers create is sucked up by the heirs.

Paying for four years if college to get a CS degree, then studying Leetcode, interning, working cheap as an associate/junior used to be seen as a good path, but obviously since late 2022 this has stagnated for most.



> The past 50 years has seen the hourly wage stay flat while the profit workers create is sucked up by the heirs.

Are you sure?

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEFAINUSA672N

The reality is that so much wealth has been created that the US has seen rising wages AND rising inequality, with an increasing proportion of growth ending up benefiting capital, not labour.


Wait, that chart shows a 30% growth in family income. For a per-worker income comparison you'd need divide by the increase in dual-income families. Which has also increased by about 30% since 1975.


Actually, real median personal income has increased 50% since 1975: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N

I believe you may have seen some number somewhere, it would be useful to have that to silence detractors.


How do you reconcile personal income going up 50% with family income going up only 30% and dual income families going up 30% over the same timespan? Are these really tracking the same thing?

Also, I don't understand what you mean about silencing detractors. What number are you saying it would be useful to have? The number of dual income families? That data is available from many sources, eg: https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/america-has-becom...


> Paying for four years if college to get a CS degree, then studying Leetcode, interning, working cheap as an associate/junior used to be seen as a good path, but obviously since late 2022 this has stagnated for most.

What?

Go to a state school, median amount is ~11k a year. Then study Leetcode for a month (free or $35). Buy Cracking the Coding Interview ($33 new). Get a job as a software engineer making a median wage of $140k

Only on HN could someone see this opportunity set and think it's stagnated.

https://www.bankrate.com/loans/student-loans/average-cost-of...

https://builtin.com/salaries/us/software-engineer




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