Snowden's words are meaningless - he didn't even read the majority of the documents he himself leaked, he just grabbed everything that wasn't bolted down - and saying that the US monitors other countries' companies is also completely different from the IP theft being discussed. Monitoring other countries' companies happens routinely for intelligence purposes and does not connote IP theft.
So, once again, you have provided zero evidence for your claim.
> I’m always shocked by the average American level of ignorance about what the US does…
In addition to being condescending, breaking the HN guidelines, and engaging in emotional manipulation, you are also being highly ironic by displaying your own ignorance while sneering at others.
> So much for whataboutism.
I already explained to you how you're engaging in whataboutism:
> The discussion is whether other countries have to guard against China stealing their IP. Discussion of whether non-China counties engage in the same behavior is completely irrelevant, and bringing it up is literally textbook whataboutism, because when discussing this matter, you literally are saying "what about <other country>" when that country isn't the subject of discussion.
This applies regardless if the claim about what the US is doing is true, which in this case it isn't.
It’s clear at that point that you are just going to refuse any sources. I haven’t provided zero evidence you are discarding my evidence (which includes a report from the EU by the way).
If you fail to see how knowing if the US is engaging in IP theft is relevant to a discussion about US-lead effort to isolate China motivated by IP theft from them, I don’t think I can do anything for you. It is not whataboutism. It’s the heart of the issue.
The core issue is that the US is becoming protectionist to try to protect its threatened position and trying to drag other countries in its madness. IP theft is merely an excuse.
You broke the site guidelines so badly in this thread that I've banned the account. I don't want to ban you, but you've been crossing the line frequently and badly:
