If HN is a conduit for YC, why would HN not want mindshare that reflects what YC wants? For instance, is this post not getting upvotes because it reflects negativly on these internet companies?
HN's been around for nearly 20 years. You can check its growth.
When you code, you have to comment so any idiot can understand your logic, correct? I do not see why this is not true here.
You do not have to do this when you code and I don't understand its relationship to HN. Social spaces, whether online or off don't work like code. And the 'standards' here are largely set by people.
No, dang wants it on his terms. I do not want it on my terms or dangs terms. I want it on the community's terms. But there is not voting here on the topic. It is authoritarian and I want to get rid of authoritarianism because that serves the most people the best. I know it is messy and ugly, but that is humanity.
If you want to design a messageboard by voting, you should try that. It's not how this one or, really, any is designed. Differences of opinion on how things should be made and work are not, in themselves, 'authoritarianism'.
Authoritarian control for a purpose that benefits the authoritarian
I think this would be a lot more persuasive if it didn't come off like the conclusion you're motivated-reasoning yourself to rather than something supported by concrete facts or experiences.
> Social spaces, whether online or off don't work like code.
This very site uses code to control the conversation between two people. Where does this happen in the real world? Where is the algorithm that can make what comes out of my mouth not reach your ears? Where is the upvote floating over my head in real life? CAn someone new I meet look back at everything I said in my life?
Below is the third party on HN, like a policeman looking over our shoulder 24/7.
It was not a comment about "growth". It was a comment about function.
The article's claims, to which you were drawing a parallel, are about growth, not function. Now you're basically saying you're not actually drawing a parallel and the rest of it is very difficult to follow, it reads to me that mostly you want to call HN authoritarian (which, ok, but not very interesting on its own) but for reasons I can't quite put my finger on, you'd prefer not do anything about it - things like, say, proposing an alternative design or sending an email are right out.
It is about growth and function. Function is manipulated to foster growth. That is the process of enshitification.
And the growth here is not specifically about HN, but also YC and the "growth" of consent. Eg. "tech is good"
EDITING to say:
Never mind. Evil and greed are proliferating and promoted on the internet. This young girl school shooter proves it if you look at what she had access to and what she watched on discord.
HN's been around for nearly 20 years. You can check its growth.
When you code, you have to comment so any idiot can understand your logic, correct? I do not see why this is not true here.
You do not have to do this when you code and I don't understand its relationship to HN. Social spaces, whether online or off don't work like code. And the 'standards' here are largely set by people.
No, dang wants it on his terms. I do not want it on my terms or dangs terms. I want it on the community's terms. But there is not voting here on the topic. It is authoritarian and I want to get rid of authoritarianism because that serves the most people the best. I know it is messy and ugly, but that is humanity.
If you want to design a messageboard by voting, you should try that. It's not how this one or, really, any is designed. Differences of opinion on how things should be made and work are not, in themselves, 'authoritarianism'.
Authoritarian control for a purpose that benefits the authoritarian
I think this would be a lot more persuasive if it didn't come off like the conclusion you're motivated-reasoning yourself to rather than something supported by concrete facts or experiences.