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The fact that statements that are well documented as being uttered, with corroborated evidence and also no denial that they indeed were, is that also part of the everything that's up for debate in your post-truth world?

May you not see the day when you're on the wrong side of that logic. I suspect that if you live long enough and need costly help that's not profitable to the now-improved US plutocracy, I fear that you will.


Please don't post flamewar comments to HN, no matter how wrong someone is or you feel they are.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


In line with the other reply, it's simply a matter of cause and effect. If you are unable to come to terms with cause and effect, then you are the closed minded one.

For example, if you remove low-cost PrEP more homosexuals WILL get HIV. WILL. Not might. Not may. WILL. It is really that simple.

Okay, so therefore if you have policy, which many conservatives do, that insurance should not be mandated to provide affordable PrEP than you MUST support more homosexuals getting HIV.

The problem here is people are cowards and weasels. They support things, knowing full well of the consequences of it, and then will proclaim they don't support the consequences. That's impossible, it doesn't work that way. That's true closed-mindedness.

If I support adding bottomless pits all over the road, then I support some drivers diving in them. That's how the world works, cause and effect, and even small children learn this quickly. It's only when the adults start to weasel that there's room for "debate".

I would have much more tolerance for conservative opinions if they would just outright say they want more homosexuals to get HIV, as a punishment. Or say they want more women to die. But they don't, because they're cowards before conservatives. I cannot respect a coward.


This isn’t a matter of perspectives, it’s a matter of consequences.

Consequences which are already happening. Women are dying from abortion laws. Trans individuals are dying due to anti trans laws. The data is out there proving it.




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