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I generally dislike middle-management as much as the next IC, but I think these types of arguments tend to ignore latent or low-probability risks.

You see this all the time in discussions about quality or safety metrics. By definition, if those teams are doing a good job you won't see many quality or safety issues, which leads people to believe they are doing "FUCK ALL" and provide little benefit. Only in hindsight, after a low-probability but high risk event happens, does getting rid of them seem like a bad idea.



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