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british household AC is wild, it's like they've got a full-power american range plug for every outlet


Not just UK, the whole world except North America and Japan.

South african plugs are rated 16A @240V. Thats a safe 3.5kW at each and every plug socket in the house.


> Not just UK, the whole world except North America and Japan.

Brazil is also an exception. The standard socket is only 10A (with a 20A alternative for things like air conditioners), and the voltages vary depending on the city (and the building, and location within the building); you might have 110V, 115V, 127V, 220V, 230V, and perhaps others I have missed (I went in more detail about it at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40385851). I live in a 127V/220V area, so my single-phase sockets are 10A @ 127V, for a total of only 1.3kW each.


So it's pretty normal for a "230v" plug to actually be anything between 220v and 240v. Voltages fluctuated pretty wide depending on location. It's all down to the loca transformers.

But mixing 100s of volts with 200s of volts sounds mad. I presume you had the special plug for your 200 range outlets? Does Brazil also have split phase AC like the US?


> I presume you had the special plug for your 200 range outlets?

The same type of socket is used for "110V" (usually 127V) and "220V", sometimes in the same building, sometimes right next to each other. The "220V" socket might be colored red, or might have a sticker saying "220V" glued next to it, but don't count on it. The only difference is between the 10A and the 20A, the pins on the 20A plug are slightly thicker and don't fit in the 10A socket (the opposite works fine).

But at least, it's better than a couple of decades ago: on top of all that, back then we didn't even have a plug and socket standard. It was a mix of several types, including a "universal" socket which looked like the common USA socket but could also accept plugs with round pins, and all of them (including the USA standard sockets) could be used for both "110V" and "220V". The new plug and socket standard is great; it's better than the USA standard, since a partially pushed plug won't expose live pins (and it's also slightly smaller, allowing for denser power strips). It's unfortunate that they didn't also modify the European standard they used as a base to add keying for the different voltages (while allowing a universal plug for things which can work on both voltages), but I understand that trying to do too much could make it politically unfeasible to mandate the new standard.

> Does Brazil also have split phase AC like the US?

It's more common to have three-phase AC (that is, between phase and neutral is 127V and between a pair of phases is 220V), but we also have some places with split phase (for instance, 110V between phase and neutral and 220V between a pair of phases).


I remember watching a Technology Connections video where he was looking at space heaters rated for small/medium/large rooms and pointing out that the medium/large room heaters were both 1500kW (iirc) as it’s the maximum continuous draw from a US socket.

Over here in NZ we get pretty similar ratings on the same style heaters, but the large room ones are 2400kW because we can get that from any socket.

Also with my hobby - sewing. A lot of people in North America talk about forgetting they left the iron on, but I switch it on and off every time because it heats up in 30 seconds - less if it’s been on recently.


And because nearly every single house in UK is wired for single phase only, your connection to the grid is usually rated at 80-100amps(so a regular British home can draw around ~20kW on a single phase).


And just like Americans have special access to 'full-power', there's special access to three phase 400 V in many nominally 230V countries, too.

That's eg common for electric stoves in your kitchen.




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