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I have HN set to show me comments from hellbanned users.

A lot of them are just trolls/spammers , however there are a number that I feel sorry for because they post relevant and sometimes long comments on threads and I imagine that they wonder why they are not getting any votes or replies.

I think it's easy to get off to a bad start on an online community simply because you don't understand it's ethos rather than outright malice.



So do I. I tend to upvote the sensible (i.e. not crazy) ones, in the hopes that someday they'll make it back to positive karma.


I don't think the votes actually go through on hellbanned users unfortunately.


The public code in news.arc (which doesn't the anti-abuse code) suggests:

  * The test for a comment being auto-killed (marked [dead]) is "(or (ignored user) (< (karma user) comment-threshold*))"
  * comment-threshold* = -20
  * Karma is still updated on item authors if their post is dead - as long as the tests on the person doing the voting pass.
  * Once you have the ignore flag set, only administrators can remove it - it is independent of karma.
  * You get the ignore flag set for posting a link to a banned site, posting a comment containing banned text, or if one of your posts is blasted or nuked by an administrator.


Hellbanned? what does that actually mean? Seems i missed a lot online since around the early 2000s...


Your account appears, to you, to function normally, but your posts are not visible to any other users.

The rationale is that trolls and spammers will usually register new accounts upon being notified of a ban, but a hellbanned troll/spammer might continue to use the hellbanned account without realizing that their posts are ignored.


Ah! thanks for the quick answer!


I repost them with attribution and a message that the account is dead.


Will a positive karma score automatically un-hellban a user?




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