This is the company you are now trusting with the mere claim that WhatsApp is end-to-end secured.
2018: Facebook, not satisfied with getting its own users’ data only, bought and hijacked a VPN app in order to — wait for it — bypass encryption that millions of people trusted for ALL SITES ON THE INTERNET in order to analyze traffic and be able to get the dirt on its competitors!
Oh, but at least the content of your messages is not analyzed by FB? Well, as far as we know that might be true, but if the other user flags your convo, it is in fact sent to Facebook:
But wait, there’s more. Sometimes the mask slips due to People You May Know, which is the carefully guarded mix of “secret” algorithms that has helped Facebook aggressively grow beyond 100 million people:
Telegram has NEVER tried to do any of these types of things.
So, given a choice, would I trust Zuck and co, or a guy who literally had to flee Russia because at great personal cost he had refused disclose the identities of the Maidan protestors, and losing his company to their Mail.ru conglomerate?
We forget too easily, and PR works wonders. I used to have such a list for Microsoft, but:
- I have to pull it of every time we talk about the new MS, because people think they are good guys now. They already forgot.
- People don't think it could have been that bad.
- I have to rewrite the list, I can't link to it. Or expand it. And I have to justify its existence and credibility because MS PR is so strong now.
- The links are disappearing from the web, so my previous proofs are fading away, slowly being replaced by references everywhere singing MS praises and stating how a saint Gates is.
2016 Audio: they listened to what you did through your microphone until they got caught
https://www.nbc4i.com/news/spying-secrets-is-facebook-eavesd...
2019: Facebook caught activating camera without permission, to spy on you
https://www.pcmag.com/news/facebook-app-caught-activating-ph...
2020: Facebook a year later still secretly using your camera to spy on you, this time through Instagram
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24514433
This is the company you are now trusting with the mere claim that WhatsApp is end-to-end secured.
2018: Facebook, not satisfied with getting its own users’ data only, bought and hijacked a VPN app in order to — wait for it — bypass encryption that millions of people trusted for ALL SITES ON THE INTERNET in order to analyze traffic and be able to get the dirt on its competitors!
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/08/facebook-violate...
Now about WhatsApp…
Oh yeah… it’s already sending a lot of telemetry to Facebook:
https://www.wired.com/story/whatsapp-instagram-facebook-data...
And has been since 2016:
https://www.wired.com/story/whatsapp-facebook-data-share-not...
Oh, but at least the content of your messages is not analyzed by FB? Well, as far as we know that might be true, but if the other user flags your convo, it is in fact sent to Facebook:
https://www.propublica.org/article/how-facebook-undermines-p...
But wait, there’s more. Sometimes the mask slips due to People You May Know, which is the carefully guarded mix of “secret” algorithms that has helped Facebook aggressively grow beyond 100 million people:
https://medium.com/hackernoon/facebook-is-reading-my-encrypt...
https://gizmodo.com/people-you-may-know-a-controversial-face...
Mark Z knows what’s up:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/22/mark-zuck...
https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2018/apr/17/facebook-...
Telegram has NEVER tried to do any of these types of things.
So, given a choice, would I trust Zuck and co, or a guy who literally had to flee Russia because at great personal cost he had refused disclose the identities of the Maidan protestors, and losing his company to their Mail.ru conglomerate?
https://www.forbes.com/profile/pavel-durov/
https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Pavel-Durov-so-careless-in-his...
https://www.cnn.com/2016/02/23/europe/pavel-durov-telegram-e...
The answer is: neither (although Pavel Durov is like 1000x more trustworthy in my opinion).
https://itc.ua/en/news/durov-boasts-that-telegram-employs-ab...
I prefer open source software
https://community.intercoin.app/t/web3-moxie-signal-telegram...
And here’s why:
https://community.qbix.com/t/the-global-war-on-end-to-end-en...