I don’t use Visual Studio :)

But I guess by the time it installs Rails finally completes serving the first request.

Well I never said anything about rails.

I sure would like to see the software development shop that uses C# and not Visual Studio.

There are many companies that employ C# alongside other languages, or C# and F# exclusively, that have teams using Macs with VS Code or Rider. Whichever language/platform you had experience with has little to do with what .NET is for 8 years already, and its unproductive to insist on outdated perception.

I was talking about what at least 2 companies were doing in the past year.