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> Of course many are still "panicked" since if they leave the city they fear it would be hard to came back if the WFH end, but this is not really an issue in practical terms

May I ask where do you live in EU that WFH is stil in palce? Here in Austria no employer tolerates WFH anymore.

Any recruiter I spoke with and I asked them about WFH, they asked "how many days?" and when I answered "well, all of them?", the conversation ended there. All the managers want butts in seats at least 3 days/week. One company here I interviewed recently told me when I asked about WFH "we know people love this WFH thing, so to please them, we're offering WFH on Fridays" lol

Managers can't live without seeing butts in seats here. It's either you come to the office or stay unemployed. The market is really bad here and employees have no leverage for WFH, that's why I asked where you live, since I'm planning to get out of this hellhole and I'm checking my options.



France, on Sophia-Antipolis living in the Alps, "nearby" but still 99% remote. Yes here there is a big RTO push, but at least in IT it find little grip so far. It's easier AFAIK in Scandinavia in general, Finland in particular but I do not consider their future bright enough to suggest them.

Honestly so far in large terms the countries I consider most with some future are the USA in the MID term, Russia in the long term, France might have a future thanks to a lower density and still being an "almost complete" country where almost anything is or can be produced domestically but it's still uncertain, however having old parents in Italy (north west, so relatively nearby) where I'm from I've choose a near-enough country where I can live well enough and work from remote. In Italy the situation is similar to the one you describe for Austria, aggravated by a higher population density...

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>France, on Sophia-Antipolis living in the Alps

Isn't that region very expensive CoL compared to the local wages?

Can you work in France tech sector, without speaking French?


> Isn't that region very expensive CoL compared to the local wages?

It's depend, far less expensive than Paris, far more expensive than the rest of France, but a thing is the shore, where anything have touristic prices, another is the inner land where prices are far lower.

> Can you work in France tech sector, without speaking French?

Maybe it's possible, but it would be definitively hard. France is an ancient ex-empire fully knowing the power of the langue on individuals, so they do not like using foreign languages. Of course even in France in tech most things are in English, but the fact that docs, exterior costumers contacts etc happen in English you still need French for all, starting from the public administration.

In salary terms, you normally get FAR less than Luxembourg and still significantly less than Belgium, for a not so lower cost of life, but you still get EU level services, a nice climate, a bit hot now, but with cool nights, with nature around. I'm at 1030m altitude at 7km for the "main village" and I still get a 2Gbps/860Mbs FTTH, a small supermarket nearby, a big one at 15' with Drive, various leisure services and few shops. Not at all at the level of a developed big city of course, but still a good level of services, while in nature. So for me the choice was "higher salary with less nice condition for a period than going somewhere else or less salary but a good quality of life and stability", I chose this one.


Thanks for the detailed explanation.




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