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I'm in a suburb. Not an expensive one. Downtown is a 20 minute drive in light traffic. Within a 10 minute walk there are office buildings, grocery stores, shopping mall, gyms, parks, hiking and biking trails, etc. There are many cities to choose from; some are better planned than others. Based on your comment I would guess that you've opted to live in one of the "cool" cities in America.


Would you please share which city is this, that has everything within 10 minute walk in its suburbs?

I'm a European who's lived in an "American downtown" because I was told the suburbs are horrible, but what you're describing sounds great.


Price is relative. That could be Los Altos, California. Which is very nice, walkable with garages, great parks and outdoors, but not what most people would call affordable. :)


I would argue that it's objectively cheaper to live in the suburbs. And I can assert with confidence that $100/mo in HOA fees provides walkable parks, trails, pools, gyms, tennis courts, basketball courts, etc. I vote on the financial management of all these things so I can be sure they are provided by that amount of money, objectively. Major builders do suburbs like this one across the country. And they make a killing managing them too.

Where are you? SF? SD? NY? Miami? You're paying a premium for the right to brag about it. Not for the amenities.


> because I was told the suburbs are horrible

Probably shouldn’t be taking advice from Reddit.


I won't. But I'm basically describing the entire USA except the coasts, and a few major cities in between. For perspective, houses in SF sell for 10x the value per square foot compared with my neighborhood. And I'm not remotely in the cheapest place in the country. America is big. Look around. There is a LOT of space in the middle.


Right, I'm calling bullshit. Suburbs in America don't have anything 10 minutes walk away. You're just confused what a suburb is. I'm honestly concerned that people like you are allowed to vote.


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The comment got a lot of upvotes, so clearly many people are living in suburbs like mine. If it's unbelievable for you, you've failed yourself. Sorry to hear that. I'm concerned that people like you are allowed to perpetuate price gouging on real estate because of your incompetence. Cheers.


Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes things worse.

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Thanks for the calm recourse. Noted. Appreciated.


Meek.


Columbia, MD was one of the earlier planned suburbs. Each neighborhood has a grocery store. Worth looking at.


Was going to say the same. I have never lived in a house that did not have a garage.


Which city are you in?


If we knew, we might all move there and ruin it ;P.


Exactly.


hahahaha :)


That you need to drive to downtown suggests you might not have much garage space after all?


No one parks in the garage in the suburbs :) They either park in the driveway or on the street, both of which have ample room to store vehicles.


I tried parking in my garage for a while, but the car took up too much valuable space.


This is it. My garage is full of kid's stuff. I don't have a backyard for a shed, plus my landlords installed shelving on all three sides, some not above car roof level.

If we want to park a car in there, it's about an hour of moving stuff out of the way. I stand at the back as a spotter while my wife drives at me. Once she hit me, she turns the car off and climbs out through the back seat. I then climb over the roof of the car.

I wish I was making this up. Glad it's 12 years old with no sun roof. I don't have to feel bad about sliding over it.


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Your comment seems unnecessarily antagonistic.

Given whatever size of garage I have, being somewhere I can live without a car gives me more garage space, regardless of whether it's a suburb. If I want to maximize garage space given my choice of a car-free lifestyle, I would probably move to a suburb with a good train station, not one where "only 20 minutes' drive to downtown" is seen as the selling point. Those are subtly different kinds of places, in my experience, where most people are going to fill their garage space with cars.


Nah, I'm joking, hopefully not antagonizing. My point was that since you're not downtown, you can park in the street. Minutes to downtown isn't a selling point I'm making. I don't typically go downtown. I've put 10k miles on my car in 3 years. This was in response to someone saying they can't get exercise in a suburb, which I find absurd.


> when you too are ready to grow up

The antagonism is from effectively calling them immature (and thus implying that their opinion is coming from a place of naivety) and placing yourself above them. This is a pretty standard insult that people use to try to be persuasive.

I suppose you could say that posting that insult itself is so immature that readers should recognize it as a joke, but I suggest that you should try to stay away from sarcasm when posting in online forums. It can be quite difficult to detect the sarcasm of a bunch of people you don't know.

I could end my post by sarcastically saying "don't worry, you'll learn what a joke is when you grow up", but hopefully you can imagine how some people would take that as a genuine insult rather than a joke. Though it would be punchier ending.


>and placing yourself above them.

Like you did by downvoting?

Are you young? Because this comment shouldn't be offensive unless you're harboring doubt about immature decisions you've made. For everyone else, it's a tongue in cheek poke at the bad decisions I made when I was younger. Statistically, people tend to leave the city when they get older. If you're insulted by that, you probably still belong in the city.

Maybe you should look inward instead of downvoting, or offering explanations that presume a lesser understanding in your audience.

Looking up to experience isn't a bad thing. It shows maturity. How's that for a punchy finish?

/Shrug.


You don't need to park the car in the garage you know. Park the car on the drive, keep the garage for a workshop.




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