Whenever you think of something, ask yourself this "Would I be in favor of the KKK being able to do this to black people?" If the answer is no, then you shouldn't be in favor of doing it to the KKK.
Replace either of those groups with whichever groups are relevant and emotionally impactful to you.
The idea that tolerance 101 is about who you are able to discriminate is quite amusing. Especially in a thread about Orwell, doublethink and all that.
Either way, yes, if you actually care for freedom of speech you ought to respect that which you find abhorrent. You are supposed to trust that worthwhile ideas prevail while the rest don't. That in this scenario, since the KKK has terrible ideas and yours are better, you benefit from both being out in the open, since yours should surely win over.
> The idea that tolerance 101 is about who you are able to discriminate is quite amusing. Especially in a thread about Orwell, doublethink and all that.
"discrimination" in the literal sense isn't bad, it's just making choices. The amusement stems from the very different things people mean when they say "discrimination". And being clear about what people mean with these terms is part of the 101.
But more relevantly, I didn't use that word, which is a very easy way to avoid any possible doublethink related to it!
> That in this scenario, since the KKK has terrible ideas and yours are better, you benefit from both being out in the open, since yours should surely win over.
I didn't say I want them to hide their ideas. I don't.
> Either way, yes, if you actually care for freedom of speech you ought to respect that which you find abhorrent.
Respect what, specifically? I respect their ability to speak. Do I need to go beyond that?
Anyway in this scenario do I have to allow customers to personally insult me too if I want to maintain free speech, or is that different from saying that groups deserve nothing and stole everything they have?
If it has to be all the way to illegal then I can't refuse business to KKK members? Or even KKK leadership?