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Does that mean the accurate term would be "manga"?

I've never been sure if the only difference between the two is still frames vs motion, or something else.



There is, surprisingly, no correct labels exist for this class of images. Anime is incorrect because it’s not an animated film or directly derived from one, manga is kind of correct but modern definition is just panelists comics, nijigen is another term but it’s slightly deprecative, hentai is only for porn and also won’t be understood in Japanese. There just don’t seem to be one.


"Anime style" seems to be a decent compromise that is easily understood by most people, even if technically incorrect. AFAIK a similar term is often used in Japan: "アニメ風イラスト" (Anime style Illustration)


To the vast majority of people though, anime just means anime style. See for example the common term, anime profile picture. It's like the word meme, or irony, or begging the question.


My Japanese friend said "アニメのQRコード?" when I sent them this link, so I think that usage works in both languages.


> hentai is only for porn and also won’t be understood in Japanese

Can you expand on this? Why not?


I'm guessing bc "hentai" is only "pervet/weirdo/weird person", "ero" or "ero anime" is used for that in Japan, although I'm almost certain if you walk into a shop that sells it, and refer to it as "hentai" they'll know what you mean.


Assuming you mean a sex shop, 'hentai' would refer to basically the entire store's stock, so I think you'd need to be a bit more specific! It doesn't automatically refer to manga or anime like it does in the West.


AFAIK it is just the literally word for "pervert"


Well, they're "the style that image models called anime produce".

These mostly start with real-world images and then are fine-tuned with Chinese/Japanese commercial illustrator art, which isn't anime (flat-colored TV episode screenshots) or manga (monochrome halftoned comic book pages).

The result is like 15% photorealistic shaded, so it's not a lot like anything else out there.


“Anime” comes from the Japanese Katakana word for animation (animeeeshon), so it usually refers to the animated/moving images


Intriguing, why does it have a triple e when written - is it just a way to emphasize that the vowel is pronounced long, or is it reallly long?


It's a bit of an artifact of the "dash indicating long e":

アニメーション - a-ni-me-ee-ts(u)-yo-n

Just means long e "me". It could be written more like:

anime-tsyon (dash indicating long vowel). Or: a-ni-me-e-ts(u)-yo-n.


Three 'e's is not correct. ー is a single mora, so should usually be one vowel. E.g. ラーメン is raamen not raaamen.

ショ is sho (or syo if you use Japan-style romanization) not tsu.

So the proper romanisation is something like 'animeeshon'. That said, romanisation is often done inconsistently, e.g. Osaka vs. oosaka.


I just wanted to make it clear that its a long “e”, but pretty much the same word as “animation”, not the correct english spelling of an english-imported word :p


> ショ is sho (or syo if you use Japan-style romanization) not tsu.

Of course - I'm a little rusty and sometimes confuse シ (shi) and ツ (tsu) - even when obvious from context :/


What I've seen most is the line put above the vowel, resulting in animē (but difficult to type). As there is no additional (fourth) syllable, a-ni-mee would be more logical to me, rather than a-ni-me-ee or a-ni-me-e.

That being said, I like how the triple vowel makes it clear it's not the same sound as in say meet. (This gives me the idea to change my name to tuuukkkah...)


It's adopted from english?

Just sounds like how a japanese would write animation


Yeah that’s pretty much it. Katakana words are mostly just imported foreign words

There’s “moving images” (動画), but that’s used for video in general, not specific to animation


"Manga style drawing" would be misleading since manga are drawn in black and white.


But the cover art of manga is often colour. So it should still count as manga even if it has colour IMO


"Manga style drawing" would be generally understood to mean looking like 188/190 of the pages of a manga rather than looking like 2/190 of the pages of a manga.


Your pedantry is neither appropriate nor correct. Manga is most often black and white purely because of time and budget constraints, not because manga's style is defined as black and white. There are tons of full-color manga, and many that become popular have color editions released.


> Your pedantry

It's not pedantry. I'm trying to convey some actual understanding here. These drawings aren't manga-style, you can tell because they don't look like (typical) drawings from manga; most obviously in that they're not black and white.

> Manga is most often black and white purely because of time and budget constraints

True but irrelevant. The style of the medium coevolved with those constraints and is suited towards them (as with most media). A manga-style drawing is stylised in particular ways that (among other things) allow it to look better in black and white than a typical drawing would.

> There are tons of full-color manga, and many that become popular have color editions released.

They exist (indeed I own some) but they are the exception rather than the rule. Again, "manga-style drawing" would be generally understood to mean a drawing that looked like a typical drawing from a manga.


> "manga-style drawing" would be generally understood to mean a drawing that looked like a typical drawing from a manga.

Generally understood by who though?

I see your point about what you said about the colours

> manga-style drawing is stylised in particular ways that (among other things) allow it to look better in black and white than a typical drawing would.

In particular I agree that the black and white manga drawing uses special techniques to look good in black and white. Such as notably the half-tone patterns that they use.

But I think you are placing more weight on this particular thing than perhaps most people do.

There are many defining features of manga aside from the lack of colour.

I guess to determine whether or not it is generally agreed that it must be black and white, we’d have to interview a bunch of people about what style some images were, and see if an overwhelming majority thought that colour mattered or not :p

Or, less thoroughly we might just ask the denizens of the 4chan /a/ board. They probably have some strong opinions about what counts as manga or not.


I think it's less about black/white and more about the outlined art style. A lot of these QR codes are painted. There are painted manga (Lost in Abyss comes to mind) but they are a rarity.


Mostly, not always. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorful_(manga)




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