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> this has been the norm for as long as paid workforce has been concept.

Just because something has been done for a long time doesn't mean it's fair or right.

The standard work week was once 12-14 hours a day, 6 days a week. Things change.

> But you can’t really complain about having to spend you own time commuting should you have a hybrid role.

Of course you can. You can complain about anything, and sometimes with very good reasons.

Ultimately employers are free to demand that employees RTO with no travel time compensation if they want, but it's silly to say this is something the employees can't complain about.



So one person buys/rents an expensive house just to be closer to the office and not have to commute. Somebody else makes the decision to live 1.5 hours away to save money.

How would travel time compensation work in this situation? Why would companies not discriminate implicitly or explicitly against employees who live further away?


I am not advocating for travel time compensation; I am advocating for the right to complain in general.

I work from home the vast majority of the time currently with very occasional visits to the office. The office for me is 15 minutes away. I would never accept a job that required a greater than 20-minute single direction commute, so travel time compensation is not on my radar of things to worry about.


Maybe there’s a language barrier here because “can’t really complain” is British slang for “it’s a bit silly to moan about” rather than “I forbid you from speaking about such a subject”.

Apologies for the confusion


At the end of the day, someone has to pay for it. Higher and higher salaries, more and more perks and benefits, less and less hours put into work.

Sure there is time savings in not commuting, but there are also time savings in face-to-face interactions, team spirit etc.

Instead of cooking some food and eat alone at home you can eat and discuss with colleagues or friends who work in the same area.

Instead of commuting people waste their time on social media, news and other junk before, during and after work. A commute via bus, train, subway, bicycle can often be productive or even relaxing versus taking the car. It's an often needed break between work-time and free-time. It's hard to make that break when working form home.


> Instead of commuting people waste their time on social media, news and other junk before, during and after work. A commute via bus, train, subway, bicycle can often be productive or even relaxing versus taking the car. It's an often needed break between work-time and free-time. It's hard to make that break when working form home.

You seem to be extending your own experience as if it applies to everyone equally, but it doesn't.

I find commutes neither productive nor relaxing. I do not need a break between work-time and free-time, I have an office space at home to provide that compartmentalization.


What even is this logic?

Wfh = internet addict?

Counter example

I end my work, get ready and head to the gym 10min later and 1h later im free

Meanwhile when commuting Id barely get to the home


I spent a decade working in an office park with no restaurants and only over priced cafeterias with low quality food. Everyone brought their lunch and usually ate in their office while on conference calls. My employer was responsible for the selection and hiring of the cafeteria management company.




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