> Give poor people money, if you want to help them.
Giving poor people money will not help the situation. How much money do you need to give to a family, that would want to have a picnic over the weekend, so that Bill Gates and Elon Musk and others, could not outbid them.
Yeah wont happen in real world. I wont assume bad faith from you, but generally speaking saying just give them money is a huge copout.
> Auctions work just fine for eg van Gogh paintings, and they have been in decidedly fixed supply since 1890.
Glad you brought that up.
Van Goh sold his paintings and owners of such paintings then sell them on auctions etc.
There are people in the art world who would argue that such paintings do belong in Museums, so that public can enjoy them. So they band together and collect money so that their local museum can afford to buy such Van Goh painting.
After such painting are displayed in Museum where anyone can view them, for a fixed price, that generally covers the upkeep.
Which is the same situation as here. there is a public park (that is by definition there to be used by the public), that sells tickets, that should cover the upkeep. But since the demand is too high, it sometimes need to raffle them.
> Giving poor people money will not help the situation. How much money do you need to give to a family, that would want to have a picnic over the weekend, so that Bill Gates and Elon Musk and others, could not outbid them.
And that's why Bill Gates and Elon Musk bid on and win all ebay auctions ever? Whenever a house goes for sale, they snatch it up, too. Don't they? /s
Basically, the same forces that make the paragraph above untrue, would also be at work here.
> Which is the same situation as here. there is a public park (that is by definition there to be used by the public), that sells tickets, that should cover the upkeep. But since the demand is too high, it sometimes need to raffle them.
If demand is so high, then a poor person who wins a ticket in a raffle is better off selling the ticket in the secondary market (to Bill Gates perhaps) and enjoying the money.
Naturally, you can forbid poor people from reselling their ticket to prevent that. We all know they would only use the proceeds for booze, wouldn't they? /s
> Naturally, you can forbid poor people from reselling their ticket to prevent that. We all know they would only use the proceeds for booze, wouldn't they? /s
> proceeds for booze, wouldn't they?
Who tf said that. nobody in this said that. you are the only one in this thread insinuating that people who disagree with your (brilliant /s) thoughts are doing so out of ulterior motives.
And sure in perfect world selling your tickets on secondary market would work.
But in our world, some already well of prick, would develop a scrapping bot, using lots of residential ip's (sometimes obtained in questionable ways), to spoil everything for the rest of us.
> If you auction of the tickets in the first place, you don't have to criminalize the secondary market.
it's the world where people with money get all of the advantages, and people with less get leftovers.
I will agree, that in many cases this is close to reality we live in currently (for instance holiday destinations, private resorts, etc.). But that doesn't mean people can't fight it and occasionally win. And I would think it would be important for public parks (and other institutions) to do so.
Otherwise what is the point of public institutions. Just privatize everything.
Giving poor people money will not help the situation. How much money do you need to give to a family, that would want to have a picnic over the weekend, so that Bill Gates and Elon Musk and others, could not outbid them.
Yeah wont happen in real world. I wont assume bad faith from you, but generally speaking saying just give them money is a huge copout.
> Auctions work just fine for eg van Gogh paintings, and they have been in decidedly fixed supply since 1890.
Glad you brought that up.
Van Goh sold his paintings and owners of such paintings then sell them on auctions etc.
There are people in the art world who would argue that such paintings do belong in Museums, so that public can enjoy them. So they band together and collect money so that their local museum can afford to buy such Van Goh painting.
After such painting are displayed in Museum where anyone can view them, for a fixed price, that generally covers the upkeep.
Which is the same situation as here. there is a public park (that is by definition there to be used by the public), that sells tickets, that should cover the upkeep. But since the demand is too high, it sometimes need to raffle them.
Auctions would defeat the purpose.