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So then no warrants required for them to make these requests, got it.

> both agree the law is being followed.

Notice how I didn't say that anything was illegal. The fact that it was legal, is entirely the problem!

I think it is very important for the government to get a warrant, before making these requests.

You can feel free to not care about warrants for these types of requests, but I care about them.



> So then no warrants required for them to make these requests, got it.

Not for people who aren't US citizens who live outside the US, no. Is this really news to you? Do you know of any country in the world that requires its intelligence agencies to obtain a warrant for surveilling non-citizens outside its borders?


> no

Ok, well a lot of people care about warrants.

You can feel free to not care! But a lot of other people care about warrants.

Therefore, it is good that this stuff was exposed, according to the people who care about warrants.


> Ok, well a lot of people care about warrants.

Including me.

> Therefore, it is good that this stuff was exposed, according to the people who care about warrants.

Once again, no country in the world requires its intelligence agencies to get a warrant to surveil a foreigner outside its borders who has information relevant to national security. This is both legal and something we all expect, and we already knew this before Snowden's leaks. To reveal the code names of systems that ingest this data, Snowden also leaked compromised Chinese computer systems. Is that something we should celebrate?

Even Snowden (and probably 99.9% of all people) would disagree with your position. His statements show he thought he was revealing something other than what his documents actually said.




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