I don't think its hazy. video pass through on these headsets don't extend the VR...

KaiserPro · on Jan 19, 2023

I see what youre saying. Oculus passthrough was a way to hint that you've fucked up and way past the guardian.

but, equally I think we will have much higher fidelity pass through "MR" way before we have AR that's capable of rendering stuff over real objects.

andybak · on Jan 19, 2023

Can you explain the clear, bright line as you see it?

AR to VR has always been a spectrum and passthrough is a point on that spectrum. That seems pretty hazy to me.

LegitShady · on Jan 20, 2023

VR replaces your world with a virtual one. AR casts virtual things into the normal world.

Camera pass through isn't AR, the same way a security camera isn't AR just because you could potentially view it on a VR HMD. There needs to be the component of combining the normal and virtual worlds. Camera pass through is just an ease of use feature.

KaiserPro · on Jan 20, 2023

> Camera pass through isn't AR, the same way a security camera isn't AR just because you could potentially view it on a VR HMD.

I would suggest that this is a very modern interpretation. Pokemon go is an "AR" game, even though its camera-mediated. Wayfair has an "AR" furniture viewer, apple has "AR" feature to view the new mac mini: https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/ (search for AR)

as I said, its hazy, and its only now that laser/waveguide see through displays are possible that we can have real-world overlays.

andybak · on Jan 20, 2023

> There needs to be the component of combining the normal and virtual worlds. Camera pass through is just an ease of use feature.

Passthrough can be overlaid with synthetic elements:

https://developer.oculus.com/blog/mixed-reality-with-passthr...

There's entire apps based around this feature and has been for quite a while (Google Daydream introduced an API before it's demise)