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Correction: That's exactly how it worked until a large change in the court composition decided to change the rules.

People like to pretend that SCOTUS decisions are retroactively true, that somehow they're discovering legal nuances previously overlooked.

That's not how it works. As the cliche goes, they're not final because they're right, they're right because they're final.



> how it worked until a large change in the court composition decided to change the rules

FDR created the modern administrative state. Chevron was decided in the 80s. None of this is how it’s always been.


What is the argument here? You want us to use law theory from before the industrial revolution or something?


> What is the argument here?

That limiting the administrative state is far from a monumental changing of the rules. Nobody is challenging the administrative state per se. The major doctrines principle is just being expanded, which limits Chevron, something that only came into being a few decades ago.


That's an OK summary of FedSoc talking points, but you're missing some of the barbs. Might want to try again.

The effective reuslt of the non-delegation doctrine is that, when Republicans do not like a policy outcome, Congress is required to employ a time machine to give explicit instructions to an agency decades ahead of time.


Like the federalist hacks quoting 13th century jurisprudence??


Some sort of pesky "constitution...?"


Quibble all you like, it has been that way for living memory, and reversing this is going to cause an enormous amount of chaos, because the modern state is built on these assumptions.

This is not some minor change, you're going to throw the federal government into chaos. I know that's the goal for a lot of people, but they should have the courage to admit that.


For many of us this is a welcome change, the roll back of the administrative state is very very much needed


Discussions about the EPA seem to have to magical ability to make people forget that gems like the DEA and DHS exist. Heck, until recently the FCC was headed by a corporate shill.


People take a very narrow look at the issue, they fail to see the forest for the trees


Avoiding chaos is not a valid reason for allowing a legal injustice to persist even one day longer. I support legal mandates to reduce emissions, but it needs to be done the right way as an Act of Congress, not by unelected bureaucrats creatively reinterpreting a law to suit their political goals.


Chevron deference is executive assent of Congress right to delegate. The Supreme Court is flouting precedent and re-legislating from the bench.


> Avoiding chaos is not a valid reason for allowing a legal injustice to persist even one day longer.

Wow, people are sure selective about which injustices they cannot tolerate "even one day longer".

> I support legal mandates to reduce emissions

Bullshit. You are doing the opposite and know perfectly well what's going to happen.


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