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> but in a car with lives at stake, they can’t be so cavalier

Oh man, my hair will go white soon if I have to tell people who keep making these kind of statements : either show this is causing accidents or lives with numbers or you’re talking out of your intuitive ass.

I agree with the rest - the new interface isn’t as intuitive and multiple interactions is required for various things that needed one tap before. It’s definitely worse and I hope it gets better.

What’s not intuitive to non-Tesla owners is that Tesla owners use the voice command extensively to get things done. Here’s a few of my day to day usage:

- Turn on recirculate

- Lower the temperature

- Play song X by Y

- Navigate to supermarket

- Fold the mirrors (for when parking in tight spots)

- Turn wiper high (no longer use this as the auto setting is almost perfect as of late)

You initiate the voice command by pressing a physical button on the steering wheel under your thumb. For majority of what I’ve listed above, you’d have to take your eyes off the road to either operate a physical button or tap on awfully unresponsive touchscreens in other cars. So as far as I’m concerned, I’m more road alert in Tesla than I’ve been in any other car. Add autopilot in the mix and nothing else comes close.



Using voice control for music is pretty neat, for all the rest it sucks. It doesn't understand the most basic variations on the exact commands you need to use.


Ye, kind of baffled me too - it seems to use Google tech to recognize your voice which is almost perfect. Google assistant already does an amazing job with understanding natural language variations, I think Tesla is doing their own thing after getting the stream of words from Google.


Which has also another issue: it doesn't work without an internet connection. And somehow the antenna/radio in the car is so bad I can have 4G or wifi in my phone inside the car while the car itself has no connection and thus no voice control at all.


Depends on location, I’ve never had a problem where I live and even in remote camp sites and on the highway.


What's not intuitive to Tesla owners is that owners of other cars can do every one of those things via voice too, with the possible exception of wipers (but I'm more than happy with the stalk and actual, functioning rain sensors that you yourself admit they're only just beginning to get right after ten years since they started mass-producing cars).


When iPhone came out in mass production, its battery life sucked compared to the cheapest phone out there at the time (and still fires in comparison), it had connection drop outs all the time, didn’t allow the flexibility of most smartphones at the time and that’s just from top of my head. What it did have was a platform that had a huge potential for evolving well past the rest. If you don’t agree, go read the news articles and forums around that time (with posts just like yours).

Thus your point about rain sensors is moot - they run vision software to detect rain. It can improve essentially forever and at no expense to the customer.

Your ICE car may have a better rain sensor or auto headlight whatever now, but for a car that may be the most expensive investment, you will be stuck with whatever capability it came with, much like the feature phones of the 2000s.


"It can improve forever". Or as long as Tesla cares.

Tesla owner attitude to a safety feature: "it doesn't matter that yours works great out of the box, and this one doesn't work, is one of the most complained about features and has been for years, what _really_ matters is that it _can_ be improved!"

If another manufacturers rain sensor was so faulty (because that's what it is) as Tesla's, it'd be repaired and replaced and no expense to the customer either. What's more is that it's a simpler system, that has worked reliably for 20+ years, and is a "solved problem", unless Tesla thinks there's some new rain situation that we're yet to encounter. Inventing a needlessly complex system that fails to do what a simpler, cheaper system does reliably and saying "oh well, you just don't get it, it can at least get better!" is cognitive dissonance.


No they don’t. If you insist, tell me which car does all those and does it like Tesla (recognizing all accents, works snappy, doesn’t require training, etc)


Funny you mention that. I am Scottish-Australian living in the US. An accent is something I definitely have.

- "Turn on recirculated air"

- "Set temperature to X degrees"

- "Get directions to Safeway"

- "Fold mirrors"

- "Turn on cameras"

all of these are recognized voice commands in my Audi.


Does activating the voice control cause music to stop/decrease in volume? This has always really bothered me — if I’m jamming to a song the last thing I want is for it to stop/drop away, and if the car is creating the noise shouldn’t it know pretty damn well how to separate my signal from the noise?


It completely stops everything else playing. I think they need multiple microphones to do the signal separation (like Homepod and Google Home do) but I'm not sure if the car has multiple microphones inside (new Model S and X certainly do as they have active noise cancellation for outside noise).


Well that’s going to be a hard no from me then.

I wonder whether I’m an outlier here. The engineering investment to make zero-disruption voice control seems relatively minuscule, at least compared to all the other big-league AI/ML they’re up to. I’d rather have that than… just about anything.




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