What gives you a positive opinion of the CDC? By their own admission they have lied to the public multiple times.

That's not something that is indicative of good leadership, even if supposedly done for benevolent reasons.

> What gives you a positive opinion of the CDC?

There are a lot of really great people working for the CDC and they are doing some excellent work. They also made some bad decisions around respect to COVID-19 that absolutely does affect their trustworthiness.

However, if I add up the positives and negatives, they still are come out with a net positive rating for me. There's a lot more to the CDC than their COVID response.

This is one of my main qualms with how public health does their work. Lying is justified if you think it will convince more people to do something that will improve metrics at a population level. Maybe that works for a period of time, but once people find out, it destroys their credibility.

A million times this.

Break it up and scatter it to the four winds. Being heavily taxed for the "privilege" of being lied to is anathema to democracy, even if all the cool politicians, media, fossil fuel and arms companies are doing it.

>By their own admission they have lied to the public multiple times.

Supporting evidence please.

Good point I’m not sure they ever actually admitted to lying about masks.

"When science mixes with politics, what you mostly get is politics."

This is an amazing quotation and now I'm reading about John Barry, so thanks for posting it.

Heard it recently, did not know who to attribute it to.

"when you mix science and politics, you get politics" -- John Barry

When policies masquerade as science, is nothing but politics.

CDC is the agency that was running the "Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male" as recently as the 1970s.