Before Chris and Phil did what they did, there was nothing but the Pixar Standard in Western CG studio animation.
The artists you cite are not part of the industry, and the whole point is how Chris+Phil changed attitudes in the industry. The overall world always knew other styles were possible. But the industry needed a jolt.
I won’t push it any further, but they pretty much changed the industry attitude on this. I am aware of Fortiche’s previous work, but it’s a long way from a few million dollars in cinematics to this.
Even the style that Fortiche ie using in Arcane only seems to have fully developed in their other work in the past 2/3 years.
Anyway sort of a meaningless discussion. Not trying to prove anything, just saying they were leaders in this space.
Both Robert and Alberto are fairly well regarded art directors. You're clearly not familiar with the industry, which is fine, but at least refrain from making statements like that.
The fact that you can credit them with it all and dismiss Alberto as not being part of the industry is depressing. I suggest actually seeing who the initial art director they hired for Spiderverse was.
Even before Lord and Miller, Shrek is a completely different style of film than Pixar was putting out.
There were tons of CG films even around the early 2000s and 2010s that were experimenting in style. They just failed to reach critical success or weren't as in your face about it,
Lord and Miller certainly made the best films that also embraced style, but you're entirely too dismissive of the other people in the space, while laying too much at the feet of Lord and Miller.
They're certainly amazing directors and pushed style in their films, but saying they gave the industry a jolt is retconning things. Spiderverse definitely moved the needle a ton, but it's more than just them.
The artists you cite are not part of the industry, and the whole point is how Chris+Phil changed attitudes in the industry. The overall world always knew other styles were possible. But the industry needed a jolt.
I won’t push it any further, but they pretty much changed the industry attitude on this. I am aware of Fortiche’s previous work, but it’s a long way from a few million dollars in cinematics to this.
Even the style that Fortiche ie using in Arcane only seems to have fully developed in their other work in the past 2/3 years.
Anyway sort of a meaningless discussion. Not trying to prove anything, just saying they were leaders in this space.