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superior RDF triples are like martian language to millions of humans

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The ivory tower is working on it: https://github.com/w3c/EasierRDF


RDF has to be the best and saddest example of sunk cost fallacy. Instead of redirecting their efforts to a more general graph model which has actual hype and use by developers, its cultists are double downing on their abstruse technology stack, making it always more complicated while still not addressing any of its fundamental problems.


I mean, imho RDF isn't the problem. RDF itself is very simple. As you correctly point out, the stack is overcomplicated.

> Instead of redirecting their efforts to a more general graph model which has actual hype and use by developers

neo4j is basically this. You can also load RDF into neo4j using neosemantics and query it using Cypher instead of using a conventional triplestore with SPARQL, which is nice.


Let us see your proposal of the superior model?

RDF was designed primarily for data interchange and there's nothing that beats it at that.


Nothing beats it for data exchange? You must be joking, because if it were remotely true RDF would be in wide use, which is totally not. Except a few niche domains like bioinformatics, it is not used. No killer application use it as a data format, no popular data format is based on it either. Actually I can think of a single data format based on RDF, and the only open-data I know which use it have been converted to it and was simplier to use in their original format.

And for the model: property graph. But yeah, enjoy your Stockholm syndrome with your model where reification is required to annotate an edge. Also even your nickname is an aknowledgment of RDF failure: named graphs (n-quads) were created because RDF triples aren't good enough for modeling data.


Yes, let us see how you do data interchange without global identifiers. Such as URIs, which RDF has built-in natively and property graphs do not.

You're right about bioinformatics, but lets do a quick check on http://sparql.club/ on who else is looking for RDF/SPARQL specialists. Oh look: automotive industry, finance, publishing, medical, research etc.


I just looked at the linked repo. Have they made any progress? It looks like _very_ early days.


Are you saying parsing html is easier than parsing rdf triples? Because i dont know about that.

In real life you use tools for both.


Triples are already structured, machine-readable data. HTML is not.




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