This is a thinner argument than I think people realize. That’s like saying “it’s already illegal to kill bald eagles, so it should be legal to sell bald eagle feathers.” Sometimes it’s very hard to prosecute some source wrongdoing after the product has entered the steam of commerce, so to speak. We routinely make things illegal at the point where it’s easiest to prosecute, even if doing so incidentally captures some distinguishable conduct.
If bald eagles were capable of willfully selling their own feathers you'd have a point and your analogy would be apt.
The biggest hazards to a prostitute is legal repercussion and the secondary effects of that, like having no legal recourse after being abused. That's not "incidentally capturing some distinguishable conduct", the vast majority of dangers associated with this industry are artificially created by unjust laws directly driven by social taboo of a few.
It does, as anyone forced into prostitution without consent could then seek standard legal remedies for things like kidnapping/battery/coercion/etc. So long as it remains illegal, that's basically impossible.
So by that logic legalizing child pornography and child prostitution would eliminate the harms associated with those. I am going to disagree with that, not only because its baseless, but also because its absurd.
Lol "adults transacting a mutually agreed exchange should not be prohibited by law" "oh so you want to rape little babies then?" Come on man get fucking real. You're being obviously disingenuous. I can tell by the word hoops you're jumping through that you know there's no logic to your argument, you're deliberately using words like "eliminate harms associated with those" to gloss over the fact that the harms are different and have different causes. You have no argument along this line, and you know it, and making arguments you know don't hold up is banal and lowly.
False equivalence. Unless you want nasty old feathers it's impossible to obtain them without killing the Eagle, but there is sex work without trafficking.
>it's impossible to obtain them without killing the Eagle
I find Eagle feathers pretty regularly in the area around where i live. A bunch of them nest across the street and there's another nest in the back of the yard in an old tree that's been used every year for years now. Some are old and nasty, most are pretty fresh though.
"We should ban hunting, because it's very hard to prosecute poaching after the product has entered the st[r]eam of commerce" wonder how well that would go over here in the US. And yet it's perfectly good logic when it agrees with the decisions you've already made.
Actually, it is legal precedent. Game wardens are the only law enforcement officers in the US that do not require search warrants because in their line of work everything is an exigency exception to the 4th amendment.
It should be legal to sell bald eagle feathers, as well as have any arbitrary sequence of bytes stored in a file on one's disk. I don't see why everyone in society should have to have their liberty arbitrarily restricted just because cops are terrible at their ostensible jobs.
It's not that enforcement is hard, it's that legal systems have decided that cops shouldn't have to be any good to do policing, and then they work backward from that. It's the wrong way around.
Attacking the leaf nodes of a societal problem lets it look like something is being done by police, when it is actually a huge injustice and a complete waste of time and resources.
You could spend billions to bust a million hookers and johns and never once make the tiniest dent in human trafficking.
If selling bald eagle feathers is legal, the incentive to kill one is bigger. Now unless you’re caught in the act of killing a bald eagle, there’s nothing they can do.
You're just kind of ignoring Rayiner's argument at this point. We already know that there are people who believe in principle that this stuff shouldn't be prosecuted at all. What's interesting is an argument that manages to engage with what Rayiner is saying; if you can't do that, you might as well just post at the top of the thread instead.