Yeah but the videos are more than just "air" - they don't move until applied moi...

ceejayoz · on March 31, 2021

Anyone with frizzy hair can conclusively tell you inert, dead material can change with moisture/heat.

pyinstallwoes · on March 31, 2021

You're doing a generalization without looking at the vid... why not look?

ceejayoz · on March 31, 2021

I did.

As a kid, I had these: https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Capsules-various-themes-package...

They moved, grew and changed shape when put in water, too. That doesn't make them alive.

Or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGPfSSUlReM

A thin strand of material moving around when put in water is not at all surprising to me.

Igelau · on March 31, 2021

> They moved, grew and changed shape when put in water, too. That doesn't make them alive.

Or they were alive and part of a shadow operation to deploy an army of plasticky animals into homes.

pyinstallwoes · on March 31, 2021

So a cell isn't alive? It moves in a stream of water and other stuff(s). I guess not that surprising.

ceejayoz · on March 31, 2021

A cell is alive.

Some things move because they're alive. Some living things don't move. Some non-living things move, too.

Movement is not conclusive evidence of life. These videos - setting aside the legitimacy of 4chan for a moment - demonstrate "if you put the fiber in water, it moves", not "these fibers are alive".

pyinstallwoes · on April 1, 2021

Well, given that there exists no formal definition of life then that's just like, your opinion, man.

I say that in jest, but, it has merit. Any definition you try will be contested, even in academia.