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There is a lot of hate for PHP, and monoliths. The great thing about WordPress, mediaWiki, Drupal, nextCloud, and many other open source web solutions is that you can get up a running for $2 -> with little computer knowledge.

A lot of cheap consumer hosting services offer managed PHP/MySql stack very cheap. A lot of them have variations of one click installs of various kinds.

You pay the monthly fee and do not have to know about Linux, PHP or MySql.

If you are familiar with PHP, MySql finding a place to host it is still really cheap and available.

A common argument would be that you can get a VPS for $5 maybe even less. Then you have to know about what a database is, what version of PHP, when to do upgrades of all of them. Managed VPS solutions are usually fairly pricy.

With the new version of ownCloud, based on Go and micrnosercivices the barrier of entry is much higher.

The best bet will be to buy managed nextCloud hosting from someone.

While PHP is often scoffed at, the ecosystem that is ready and waiting to help host it for each is amazing. It enables a lot more people to be able to get involved and get inspired and maybe learn more and get start contributing.

If you are writing software that needs hosting but want as many people as possible to be able to use it then PHP is still the best bet, even if not the sexy bet



IMO there is not a lot of hate for monoliths. Service oriented architectures and their successor microservices have experienced a lot of push back from teams that have tried it and it doesn't work out for all applications.

PHP - I mean, it gets the job done. I would never start a new company and choose it, but if you're already on it, its good enough for most things. Go can be far superior depending on your needs.


The big issue I have with deploying PHP is the sprawling, historically low-quality ecosystem.

Maybe it’s gotten better, but last I checked, running RATS (which might not even exist any more) against random, popular PHP code bases would find piles of zero day vulnerabilities.

It’s been over a decade, so I might be being unfair.




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