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Handy tip: to get the politics of a nation, read the news on it by some paper outside the nation.

So reading the BBC for US news gives you something fairly readable.



What I see is that foreign news have no idea of what is happening in my country, they all just repeat some superficial and normally wrong pieces.

At the same time, domestic media is all lying through their teeth.

With some work one can disecate the news, separate what can't possibly be lies (because it would lead to problems), and reassembly something into an overall picture. (Who has the time for all this?) But one can never know what is being omitted, either intentionally or by incompetency.


The BBC is not 'wrong' - it's maybe just superficial and doesn't have enough detail.

The anecdotes about 'lying press' on this thread are misleading. 'Respected' news entities do not just 'make stuff up'. Definitely no the BBC, they have standards.

The problem with the bigger agencies is narrative bias, and yes, if 'within America' the narrative is pushed to 'one side' hard by the local press, then the international press will be influenced by that, but it's not as bad.

Edit: got to CNN.com right now and give some examples of their 'blatant lying'. Because they're not. Editorial bias, of course, but 'making up stories' - this is wrong. The onus would be on you to provide evidence they are doing this consistently.


Would you consider leaving out key facts that drastically alter the conclusion one might draw, lying? I would.

How about covering one news story, then not covering another on the same topic, such that you form a very different opinion about “what is going on”?


I would consider that to be editorial bias.

Lying would be indicating something that was not true.

I don't doubt that the former can be just as bad or worse than the later over the long haul, which is why, by the way, I don't watch cable news.


The Guardian actually does a very fine job covering US news.


The Guardian is super biased and narrative driven - most outlets in the UK are. The BBC less so, and oddly, the FT's coverage tends to be very demure.


Yeah but they'll skew it based on their political leanings, too. They're just a little less invested in the geographic details. But ideologically, they want to convince/captivate people to their point of view.




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