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I'm curious what they know about TikTok that isn't public. This seems too drastic for just trade posturing.


Is it really? Have you followed any of this administration’s drama these last 3.5 years?


In all seriousness, TikTok's Gen-Z userbase played a big role in a huge embarrassment for Trump recently, and given that there seems no end to his personal vanity and vindictiveness, I would not be surprised if this decision was rooted at least in part in vengeance against its users.

See: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/21/style/tiktok-trump-rally-...


How is there only one comment that states what is clearly going on here?


Why would any candidate seek "vengeance" in an election year toward a cohort who will be voting for the first time (in many cases) in 2020 and who seem overall more conservative than the previous generation? It seems way more likely to me that the jester is cover for or distraction from something much more serious, and I'd rather talk about that than feed the jester's personal vanity by interpreting every major world event through orange-colored glasses :)


Trump is not the most reasonable person. If you offend him he will burn you. This is what is happening with TikTok.


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There has been literally zero proof about that as far as i know. If you do have some compelling evidence apart from “the x community knows this”, please share them.

The issues risen in the “famous” whitepaper about TikTok’s alleged “security issues” were just pretty much standard fingerprinting that almost all apps do nowadays, like it or not.


This will never be something that can be "proven" and insisting on seeing proof is just a way to halt discussion of the entire topic.


If people are going to allege something, I seriously would like to have proof.

I’m not defending China in here, but this is not a good direction to go if we have a large number of people speculating and alleging something without a solid proof. Not that it’s anything new.


Here we go, from the 2017 National Intelligence Law of the People's Republic https://cs.brown.edu/courses/csci1800/sources/2017_PRC_Natio...

"Article 7 Any organization or citizen shall support, assist and cooperate with the state intelligence work in accordance with the law, and keep the secrets of the national intelligence work known to the public. The State protects individuals and organizations that support, assist and cooperate with national intelligence work."


Why should I trust you with this claim and that

> this is well known in the security community

? It's a tall order to trust such a serious claim from a pseudonymous person. Please furnish some reasons why I should do so.


What if it's a big hoax and I'm only protecting myself from corporate surveillance and not state surveillance too??


So you have no real evidence, got it.


https://cs.brown.edu/courses/csci1800/sources/2017_PRC_Natio.... "Article 7 Any organization or citizen shall support, assist and cooperate with the state intelligence work in accordance with the law, and keep the secrets of the national intelligence work known to the public. The State protects individuals and organizations that support, assist and cooperate with national intelligence work."


So basically the same thing as the NSA, neat.


I 100% believe this, and it seems odd that anyone wouldn't suspect that by default, in the same way one should expect DARPA strings still attached to DARPA's Silicon Valley corporate-children.

I'd like to see some evidence before describing that as anything more than a gut suspicion, though, and definitely not "public knowledge". This type of Executive reaction reads more like a response to a targeted threat and not just the general background noise of "all your base are belong to China" like over the past few years.




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