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Yes, so what you said didn't contradict anything I said. Hydroxycloroquine is safer than acetaminophen which is available openly at doses that can destroy the liver.

Here is what the CDC says about hydroxychloroquine. To call it "unsafe" is ridiculous and spreading misinformation.

Hydroxychloroquine is a relatively well tolerated medicine. The most common adverse reactions reported are stomach pain, nausea, vomiting, and headache. These side effects can often be lessened by taking hydroxychloroquine with food.Hydroxychloroquine may also cause itching in some people.

All medicines may have some side effects. Minor side effects such as nausea, occasional vomiting, or diarrhea usually do not require stopping the antimalarial drug. If you cannot tolerate your antimalarial drug, see your health care provider; other antimalarial drugs are available



> Yes, so what you said didn't contradict anything I said. Hydroxycloroquine is safer than acetaminophen which is available openly at doses that can destroy the liver.

My point is, that even if it's safer than acetaminophen (which is not in evidence) that's doesn't mean it's safe. Which is a direct contradiction to your glib, "Wrong."


The CDC says "Hydroxychloroquine is a relatively well tolerated medicine." So, unless you know something more than the CDC, it sounds safe to me. That would absolutely make what you're saying "wrong", and you're spreading misinformation.


CDC also said it shouldn't be used for covid unless it was in a hospital, as part of a clinical trial. They said this because it is dangerous.

Currently CDC refers to NIH for advice about using Hydroxychloroquine:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/therapeutic-op...

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/whats-new/

> Chloroquine/Hydroxychloroquine:

> The Panel recommends against using high-dose chloroquine (600 mg twice daily for 10 days) for the treatment of COVID-19 (AI), because the high dose carries a higher risk of toxicities than the lower dose.

> The FDA warning that cautioned against the use of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 outside the setting of a hospital or clinical trial was added to this section.

Do they say this because it's a safe drug? No, they say it because it kills more people than it helps when used to treat covid-19.


Considered safe here in India and being taken by millions of people. High dosages should be avoided by people with heart trouble/high blood pressure.


> Considered safe

No, it's considered safe compared to malaria.

> High dosages should be avoided by people with heart trouble/high blood pressure.

...because it's dangerous for those people.


Wrong. CDC itself says it's a well tolerated drug. Stop adding your own lies to something you have no understanding about except reading from the headlines.


It appears these people are motivated by politics and not science. There's no point in telling them what other countries such as India believe, because it doesn't fit with their world view that "everything Trump says is wrong". I'm not even a Trump supporter but the fact is that it is a safe drug, but they appear to not follow science but rather politics.


lol why do people keep associating this with COVID-19? Nowhere did I mention COVID-19. Hydroxychloroquine is primarily an anti-malaria drug, which the article is about.


> lol why do people keep associating this with COVID-19?

Because:

1. The article doesn't mention hydroxychloroquine and

2. Hydroxychloroquine is being touted as a cure to Covid 19, a claim that has its basis in politics, not science. Part of the claim being made is exactly the (wrong) claim you were defending: that hydroxychloroquine is safe--as if safe/unsafe were a binary.

If you go from an article about malaria to an only tangentially-related topic of hydrochloroquine and basically parrot Trump's untrue claim that hydrochloroquine is perfectly safe, you shouldn't be surprised if people assume that you're agreeing with Trump's claim that hydrochloroquine should be used to treat Covid-19.

Understand that claims occur in a context. The CDC's claim that hydrochloroquine is well-tolerated is in the context of treating a very deadly disease (malaria) that it is proven to treat. Your claim that hydrochloroquine is safe occurs in the context of treating a much less deadly disease (Covid 19) which it may actively exacerbate. Maybe you intended your claim in the context of treating malaria with hydrochloroquine, but that wasn't the context you said it in.


Wrong.

It is safe. It is provably safe. Period. End of sentence. No qualifications. Many people take it daily for various diseases for long periods of time. Is it safe for everyone? No. No drug is safe for everyone. But for the majority it is safe. Go do the research, which you haven't based on what you're saying.

This has nothing to do about Trump, and I don't care what he says. I do care what the FDA and CDC have to say, and I have bothered to actually research this deeply.

You may not want to believe science, and you want to follow your political/religious beliefs that hydroxychloroquine is a dangerous drug, so go ahead. Don't believe for one second that you're following science. There are other posts in this thread from people who have taken the drug daily, and there's research from other non-white countries (which you probably will discount). The FDA considers it safe. The CDC considers it safe. Canada considers it safe. India considers it safe. Every country safely prescribes its use for malaria, rheumatoid arthritis and lupus. The study that said it was unsafe has been heavily criticized. If you don't want to follow science, then that's fine, but at least realize that you aren't following it. Don't pretend that you are when really you're just following politics and your own beliefs.


> It is safe. It is provably safe. Period. End of sentence. No qualifications.

> Every country safely prescribes its use for malaria, rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.

This is a misunderstanding, and misuse, of the word safe. No medication is safe. We balance the harms caused against the benefits gained.


In this absurd definition of "safe", then nothing is safe. Drinking too much water will kill you, hence, water is unsafe. Driving is unsafe. Living is unsafe, since you will die. But go ahead believing what you want to believe.




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