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What nonsense. Iraq has been a shitshow for a very, very long time. And I'm not endorsing the war in any way.


The relevant question for the people living there is allways: but is it better tody?

And it seems, no.


But you didn't ask the relevant question. You made a statment that was wrong and I said so. Maybe next time you can just state the correct thing or ask the relevant question. If you had, I would have agree with you.


You never know who gets the power after a tyranny is removed. However, if you want tyranny to go, you have to gamble.


But the chances of a smooth transition are higher if the people of the country mange that by themself, instead of foreign forced change, where many suspect the motives are different.


You are ignoring that the US is not the only forign power. In a time of state collapse, other state will always have the upper hand.

Even if the US had not tried to create their kind of government, Iran sure as shit was trying to get their guys in.

So for the US its not about a question about US control, Iraqi control. Its a question of US control or Iranian control.

In this case they supported mostly the same groups, ironically. Iran did en up with the upper hand by far in Iraq, meaning the US achived LITERALLY the opposite of what they wanted to achive.




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