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The Chinese bureaucracy has millennia of experience controlling large groups of people in the same way that the Chatholic Church has millennia of experience preaching. They've already thought of it, never you worry.

The really interesting question for me is, when they inevitably succeed, how much damage they will do to themselves. Reform for the better is basically indistinguishable from chaos and collapse to the regime in power.



> The Chinese bureaucracy has millennia of experience controlling large groups of people in the same way that the Chatholic Church has millennia of experience preaching.

This at least a complete misunderstanding of the history of the Catholic church, which is both terrible at "preaching" and has never given it prime importance either theologically or practically, but also of Chinese civilizational history. Confucianism, the dominant philosophical and religious theory behind the organization of a huge period of the ancient Chinese state, recognized the right to revolution!

It also seems irrelevant to the discussion about why it's wrong to leap straight into iterating potential ways to deanonymize protesters instead of suggesting mitigation strategies.


> The Chinese bureaucracy has millennia of experience controlling large groups of people in the same way that the Chatholic Church has millennia of experience preaching.

Yet they couldn’t control a band of wandering, illiterate horsemen. The human spirit can never be controlled.


Except they did. The horsemen got fat on Chinese food and used to Chinese comforts and culture.

They stopped riding and became Chinese (just not Han Chinese). China today claims the whole of Mongolia as theirs.


They don't claim the territory of Outer Mongolia, do they? Only Inner Mongolia is part of China, as far as I know.


They don't claim it because they seceded it to Russia in order to keep peace with Russia: https://www.quora.com/Why-did-China-re-take-Tibet-but-not-Mo...




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