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The amusing thing is -- when men are too careful, that is also supposedly sexist. Consider VP Pence's stance on not having dinner with women, his extreme guard against any potential impropriety. The reaction? Here is one: "The vice president—and other powerful men—regularly avoid one-on-one meetings with women in the name of protecting their families. In the end, what suffers is women’s progress." https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/03/pences-g...


It can be a fine line, but a superior who refuses to meet one-on-one with you just because you're a woman is not doing their job well.


Not in a culture like the one we we are living, where a woman only needs to accuse a men - without any evidence - of sexual harassment and automatically ruin all his carer and possibly his family life.

Even if the case never gets to trial or even if it does and it can be proved the woman was simply lying, your life is already over. Just see what happened to Strauss Khan from IMF (not that I actually liked that guy TBH).


If the best example you can come up with is someone who literally got a blowjob from a hotel maid in his room just before leaving the country, which blowjob was only the latest instance of various supershady sexual activities/overtures involving subordinates and colleagues, then your position must be a very weak one indeed.


> "If the best example you can come up with is someone who literally got a blowjob from a hotel maid in his room "

See your way of reasoning in which you automatically assume that whenever a woman accuses a men in power than the men is guilty, is exactly the problem here.

Where can you tell Strauss Khan "literally got a blowjob from a hotel maid" in a case that didn't even go to trial because the accuser was found guilty of "repeatedly lying" in several of her statements by no less than a grand jury?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominique_Strauss-Kahn#New_Yor...


DSK never denied getting a blowjob. The only question was if it was physically coerced.

Claiming with a straight face that men are the ones who have it hard here is just prima facie laughable.


It has the same problems for any man in power, it's not a matter of "doing your job well". You basically have to record your office at all times to be safe from accusations of this sort.

Well, that is assuming you're innocent of anything that could be classed as improper, which is an ever growing class of activities.

I think that in this case, the accused is guilty of something, but it's not yet clear whether it was quite illegal. Hence a trial probably. His personal statements corroborate this.

I tend to record most conversations I have in a professional setting these days. I would record everything if I were managing people. It also helps as a general memory aid, and if anyone ever gets upset with me and decides to sling some mud, I'll have it all on file.


Its a lose-lose for men, but Pence's route is the far safer option.




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