That you are incredibly wasteful if you throw away 50% of the calories you buy. Go to a place that sells a naked burger without lettuce if that's what you want.
It's not trying again if you keep changing the point.
Is your problem that I used calories as a way to measure the value of the food?
Should I have used price? That's not valid in my opinion. Wasting a spoonful of expensive caviar is not as bad as wasting 10 kg of rice. And I have no problem people wasting their money.
I just don't get your point. Is there a way to look at this situation (deliberately ordering something you know your gonna throw away to not inconvenient the staff) and not consider it wasteful?
PS: If your salad's calories is 90% from oil, you're using too much oil.
> Is there a way to look at this situation (deliberately ordering something you know your gonna throw away to not inconvenient the staff) and not consider it wasteful?
Obviously, the OP who explained that they do it that way doesn't see it as wasteful. Neither do I.
The cost of a hamburger is about 1/3 cost of ingredients and 2/3 everything else, including labor to serve it to you. Of the ingredients, it's the beef, then the tomato, lettuce, etc, and the bun is basically free.
Most restaurants that serve hamburgers have an ordering system that is streamlined for the kind of burgers people order. By the way, a burger is a kind of sandwich and by definition includes the bun. Try ordering a burger with no bun at a McDonald's and see how much extra time it takes, and what kind of looks you get from the people serving you and the people in line behind you.
If you think that throwing away 100 calories and $0.05 worth of bread is wasteful, it's only because you're ignoring the time and energy of the people that are being saved.
I think nutritional waste is worse than wasting money, you obviously think the opposite. I also think it's worse to order something to throw it away deliberately.
I guess the old saying "agree to disagree" applies.
If you set a dollar bill on fire that's wasting money.
If you throw away a dollar's worth of rice, for no reason, that's about the same.
However, there are plenty of ways to donate the dollar and not so many ways to usefully donate the rice, so yes, wasting the money is worse, but that's not really what I am getting at here.
What we're talking about is whether you will inconvenience others to save some trivial amount of food. My position is that saving a hamburger bun is not worth making someone's day worse who works in a hamburger shop. The money is just one way of measuring it.
>>> If you set a dollar bill on fire that's wasting money.
As I said, I don't care about wasting money. Do so as you wish.
>>> If you throw away a dollar's worth of rice, for no reason, that's about the same.
Yeah, economically speaking. But you are literally wasting more food in this case, and for no good reason other than people literally having to do their job.
>>> However, there are plenty of ways to donate the dollar and not so many ways to usefully donate the rice
You are not donating anything in this conversation! It's not like he's donating the bun to anyone. You are comparing wasting a bun vs wasting rice. It's still a waste, and one is worse than the other, for the same price. You don't feel that wasting 100g of kobe beef is less worse than wasting 100 kg of generic beef?
>>> My position is that saving a hamburger bun is not worth making someone's day worse who works in a hamburger shop.
They literally have to do less work.
Finally, what is your point?!?! That is ok to waste food intentionally? Seriously?! Even if it's a trivial amount in money, you realise it adds up, right? It's a real problem, and it's not a financial problem. Are you just being a contrarian for no good reason? Is "agree to disagree" not good enough for you?
