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Until we have enough skilled workers in the world where we are regularly pumping out robots that can perform menial labour there will always be a need for this type of worker. We live in a time where hyper robot production is not happening, we also live in a time where actually there is a absolutely horrendously massive number of these types of workers.

What do you want to do about it? You want to put them all out of jobs so that companies are forced to spend more money developing robots? What? What is that going to solve? You act like people would rather not work. That's probably true but I hope you have a backup plan for them.



The "horrendously massive number of these types of workers" is the result of a violent imposition of a Capitalist ideology that masquerades as some inevitable, invisible, and inviolable logic. Robots and AI deployed by an oligarch class are just the newest incarnation of a truncheon waved in the face of the engineers who enable them. Better the poor be beaten with it than you.

I say we change the trajectory of the future instead of embracing a nightmare of our own invention as an inevitability.


This "nightmare" isn't an invention, it's the natural state.

Progress is bringing us closer meeting needs for everyone, instead dying in a cave when the snow got too high to hunter-gather.


Oh so this fatuous teleology extends back throughout all human time and history, now? All of history culminates in Filipinos being exploited by cruise lines because cave men? That's quite an interesting take on Hegel.


Alternatively, you could simply vote with your wallet and not increase demand for exploitative industries.

The world is rife with stories of menial workers who were lured to international job roles that turned out to be lies. One common one is subcontinental workers lured to the gulf states to work on construction, and when they arrive they have their passports confiscated and a treated like slaves. Another common one is southeast Asian women lured to first-world countries and similarly tricked, but into sex slavery. These are the worst-case scenarios, but there's plenty of versions without the idea of 'slavery' - the international 'maid' industry, for example. A lot of south east Asians go to other countries and become maids, where they are frequently abused - and it's hard to get home when you haven't been paid since you arrived, may not have your passport, may be physically isolated, and don't speak the local language.

Ah, but no, "it's a job and someone's doing it, so clearly they were fully informed before they went in and no-one is exerting undue leverage over them"...


Those stories involve immigration. Cruise ship workers don't do that. They will the world and return home to tell all their friends about the experience.


You can literally just google "cruise industry immigrants" to find that this isn't true:

http://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2014/04/17/health-and-fam...




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