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Is it going to take more than two hours?

Is it going to take more than two days?

Is it going to take more than two weeks?

Is it going to take more than two months?

Is it going to take more than two years?

If you can answer these questions, you can estimate using a confidence interval.

If the estimate is too wide, break it down into smaller chunks, and re-estimate.

If you can't break it down further, decide whether it's worth spending time to gather information needed to narrow the estimate or break it down. If not, scrap the project.


I prefer 1 hour/1 day/etc but yes, this is the only method that I’ve found to work. Be very clear what result you’re trying to produce, spec out the idea in detail, break down the spec into logical steps, use orders of magnitude to break down each step. There’s your estimate. If you can’t break it down enough to get into the 1 day/1 week range per step, you don’t actually have a plan and can’t produce a realistic estimate

What if the project involves trying one approach for a week, then assessing whether that approach still looks viable vs moving onto a different approach? This happens a lot with challenging projects, you basically just keep trying different things until one works.

Then you know that it's going to take at least, say two weeks, one week for the first implementation and a week to finish it if it works.

On the high end, could it take more than 2 years? 1 year? 6 months? Stop when you are 80% confident that it won't take longer than some period.

So your estimate might be between two weeks and six months. Is that an acceptable estimate for the "buyer"? If not, is it worth expending effort to narrow the estimate?


Yes, this is basically what happens. Except sometimes there's no realistic way to narrow the estimate. In research-focused teams you don't "scrap" a project that you can't break down. Instead you need to have a way to manage wide estimate windows.

There’s also something more concrete about asking “Can you get it done by end of tomorrow? What does that require?”

I prefer it over estimating which feels more like asking the length of a piece of string.


The problem I have is, conceptually a task always looks easy, but then as your coding, you hit several problems that are not simple to overcome - in fact, lot of times these issues turn into almost insolvable problems that blow out any time estimates ;(

This why you should use confidence intervals for estimates. Use a 80% confidence interval, for example. 10% of the time, you should come in under the best case estimate. 10% of the time, it should take longer than the worst case estimate.

How do you know if your estimate is good? Would you rather bet on your estimate or on hitting one of 8 numbers on a 10-number roulette wheel? If you prefer one of the bets, adjust your estimates. If you're indifferent between the bets, the estimates accurately reflect your beliefs.

(The roulette wheel is from the book, How to Measure Anything by Hubbard. Confidence interval estimates are from LiquidPlanner, https://web.archive.org/web/20120508001704/http://www.liquid...)


That’s why time limiting rather than estimating works for me. It forces me to contend with the question: “can I get this done today?” That’s usually an easier question to answer because it’s to tightly time bound. I’m not always correct but I’ll know tomorrow if I wasn’t, rather than next month!

When I’m asked on longer time frames, I’m much less confident but it’s still more concrete than the other way around.


It really depends. Anyone doing meaningful work will have hard time giving estimates. But churning up the next CRUD application with now special requirements can have no unknown variables. The question of course remains, why would anyone want to waste their time reinventing a spreadsheet.

>why would anyone want to waste their time reinventing a spreadsheet

I hope this is tongue in cheek, right? If not, here are some reasons:

1) spreadsheets embed "functions" via macros and macros are often flagged as malicious. Just combining native functions can get pretty complex.

2) in a spreadsheet, everybody sees the input, which is not always ideal

3) data types are controlled by users for the entire column or sheet, which can mess up formulas

I could probably think of additional reasons.


I like this approach, it's more accurate than T-shirt sizing.

It's like having Michael Jordan with dementia on your team. You start out mesmerized by how many points he can score, and then you get incredibly frustrated that he forgets he has to dribble and shoot into the correct hoop.


Spot on. Not to mention all the fouls and traveling the demented "all star" makes for your team, effectively negating any point gains.


If you bill hourly, $15 for an extra billable hour is a good deal.


There seems to be an obvious solution.

When I went to the DMV and couldn't pass the vision test without my glasses, they put on my driver's license an indication that I only passed with the accommodation of corrective lenses.


That's gone away to avoid discrimination


redo[1] with shell scripts has become my goto method of dealing with multi-step data problems. It makes it easy to review each step of data retrieval, clean-up, transformation, etc.

I use mlr, sqlite, rye, souffle, and goawk in the shell scripts, and visidata to interactively review the intermediate files.

1. https://redo.readthedocs.io/en/latest/


The airline that inspired at least one passenger to write a song about them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1SKldiiWm4


Junior developers don't yet have the intuition to tell the computer, "NO, NOT LIKE THAT!"


Hope they backed up the seed phrase for the Art Department before deleting it.


My mother-in-law shipped us homemade jam from Slovakia. It's been stuck in customs for 3 weeks. The agents must be working diligently to assay the canning jar lids.


Dang, there goes my plan to smuggle RTX 3090s into the country in jelly jars!

(For government agents: The above is a "joke", you surely have been introduced to this concept before they gave you the government brain chip, if not, here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke)


Jokes are only for L80 and above citizens.


presumably it's status quo bias


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